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Chances Albert Re-Signs in St. Louis
I know my hard on is obvious, but I would like to see what the general consensus is here.
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High.
By the way, don't call him 'El Hombre' anymore. His words.
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200tang
By the way, don't call him 'El Hombre' anymore. His words.
hush you!
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Jeffy25
hush you!
it's true! HGM has the details!
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It's true, Albert Pujols is HGM! :eek:
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etothep
It's true, Albert Pujols is HGM! :eek:
You got me.
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Albert Pujols doesn’t like his nickname: In a pleasant and wide-ranging interview that lasted nearly 30 minutes, the Cardinals’ first baseman and three-time National League MVP was in a great mood and had a lot of things to say. Here’s one item: Pujols politely asked that the media and fans refrain from calling him “El Hombre,” because he believes it’s disrespectful to Cardinals Hall of Famer Stan “The Man” Musial.
Pujols has said this before, but seems especially adamant this time.
“I don’t want to be called that,” Pujols said. “There is one man that gets that respect, and that’s Stan Musial. He’s the Man. He’s the Man in St. Louis. And I know ‘El Hombre’ means ‘The Man’ in Spanish. But Stan is The Man. You can call me whatever else you want, but just don’t call me El Hombre.”
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I voted 0, but only because I hope he doesn't, lol.
Probably 80-89
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SirKodiak
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cool, never knew that.
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Jeffy25
cool, never knew that.
He just said it yesterday. :p
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I think this should be titled "Chances the Cardinals let Albert Pujols (one of the best players of the generation) get away", and the options should be "Slim" and "None"
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I voted 0 to break your heart.
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free2131
I voted 0 to break your heart.
No you voted 0 to express the pain you feel from the "0" shaped hole currently occupying your abdomen. ;) :D
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actionjackson
No you voted 0 to express the pain you feel from the "0" shaped hole currently occupying your abdomen. ;) :D
Its more of an "o"
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nah guys, it's more of a 'half dollar'.
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I think that since the Cards re-signed Holliday, it made getting Pujols to resign as close to a done deal as it's going to get, as he again has great protection in the lineup.
BTW, he's my favorite player, so I guess that makes the Cards as close to being a favorite team as I have at the moment.
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tdk1984
I think that since the Cards re-signed Holliday, it made getting Pujols to resign as close to a done deal as it's going to get, as he again has great protection in the lineup.
Oh no, the dreaded 'P' word
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lol - protection.
I wonder what Santa is gonna get me this year.
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200tang
lol - protection.
I wonder what Santa is gonna get me this year.
People love to argue about protection.
I am indifferent.
I think there is a level of existence, but I can easily see why people dismiss the notion...I see both sides.
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All "protection" is is that if you have a better hitter behind you, you'll walk less. There's no measurable impact on the actual offensive performance besides the impact on walks.
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don't think you will get a better pitch to hit? Don't think that it sits in a pitcher's mind that the hitter after this guy can hit or not?
I believe there is some level of more grooved balls, or rather more hittable pitches.
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Jeffy25
don't think you will get a better pitch to hit? Don't think that it sits in a pitcher's mind that the hitter after this guy can hit or not?
I believe there is some level of more grooved balls, or rather more hittable pitches.
I don't know, maybe, but it doesn't show up in the data. As I said, no measurable impact.
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HoustonGM
I don't know, maybe, but it doesn't show up in the data. As I said, no measurable impact.
of course, you can't possibly measure it.
I don't think you can whaff at it completely and say that there is no way it exists in some ways.
But I also think too many fans believe in it waaaaaaaay too much.
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Jeffy25
of course, you can't possibly measure it.
I don't think you can whaff at it completely and say that there is no way it exists in some ways.
But I also think too many fans believe in it waaaaaaaay too much.
If the effect is so small that it can't be measured, is it worth taking into account when evaluating a player? (Note: This has nothing to do with "intangibles", which, yes, are worth taking into account when evaluating a player. This is something tangible that, if it exists, is so small that it can't be measured.)
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And, besides, this is Albert Pujols we're talking about. He's the best hitter in the game. I don't think Matt Holliday hitting behind him really matters much. Whether it's Matt Holliday or Yuniesky Betancourt behind him, Pujols is still going to be the best hitter in the game.
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HoustonGM
And, besides, this is Albert Pujols we're talking about. He's the best hitter in the game. I don't think Matt Holliday hitting behind him really matters much. Whether it's Matt Holliday or Yuniesky Betancourt behind him, Pujols is still going to be the best hitter in the game.
A good hitter is a good hitter regardless. Albert Pujols had 20 IBB in high leverage last year. Adrian Gonzalez had eight. Both put up better numbers in high leverage.
If there's any effect by protection, it's not even worth bringing up. Not to mention that IBBing a player is generally not the correct thing to do...
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HoustonGM
And, besides, this is Albert Pujols we're talking about. He's the best hitter in the game. I don't think Matt Holliday hitting behind him really matters much. Whether it's Matt Holliday or Yuniesky Betancourt behind him, Pujols is still going to be the best hitter in the game.
You don't think you would pitch around Albert more likely if Betancourt is batting clean up over Holliday?
I would pitch around him...easily.
and TLR adamantly believes in protection for Albert. Not saying I do of course, saying he is one of the greatest minds in the game, he saw it as a necessity.
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Jeffy25
You don't think you would pitch around Albert more likely if Betancourt is batting clean up over Holliday?
I would pitch around him...easily.
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HoustonGM
All "protection" is is that if you have a better hitter behind you, you'll walk less. There's no measurable impact on the actual offensive performance besides the impact on walks.
Of course, the reverse of that is true too. A worse hitter behind you, you'll walk more.
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I wanted to vote 0, but I voted 41-50 simply because I'm an Astros fan, and the damage he does to the Astros pitching year in year out is, heart breaking.
But also as a baseball fan, he is absolutely fun to watch. I'd have even more fun watching him play elsewhere, outside of the NL Central. :P
I do think he will resign, he seems like a dedicated-non greedy type player, and the fans in St. Louis are great. Unless Yankees or Redsox ante up tons of money, I don't see him leaving.
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Robert
because I'm an Astros fan
There is an Astro's fan on this forum? :eek:
****, time for me to start deleting old posts :p
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But also as a baseball fan, he is absolutely fun to watch. I'd have even more fun watching him play elsewhere, outside of the NL Central. :P
Well said.
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Jeffy25
There is an Astro's fan on this forum? :eek:
****, time for me to start deleting old posts :p
Well, I've been an Astros fan for quite some time now, through thick or thin. Even some of my best friends who love baseball aren't even Astros fans, so I hear alot of trash talking. lol
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Jeffy25
There is an Astro's fan on this forum? :eek:
****, time for me to start deleting old posts :p
Nationally I have seen less astro fans than any other team...they really seem not to have an identity nationally at least what I see...(no hard feelings) I do think it is pretty cool that you are on here.... :)
I am pretty confident in saying this, when Albert plays for another team, is when pigs fly.... same as when the Cubs win the World Series...
I like that uniform :)
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Yeah, the only Astro's fans I ever see already live in Texas.......