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I would say similar to what Seattle got for Griffey would be at least expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
What teams even have the talent to land either player.
Let's do it.
Pujols for Kemp, Kershaw, Loney, and two B level specs.
I would probably take that ^^
Tempting, but if I was L.A. (budget issues aside), just thinking about it right now, I wouldn't include Kemp AND Kershaw. I'd be more willing to trade Kershaw than Kemp.
Mike Cameron, Brett Tomko, Jake Meyer & Antonio Perez is all you want back? Hell, I think there are plenty of teams that can afford to land both Pujols & Mauer then :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Yeah, the Griffey situation is a bit weird because he wanted to go to Cincinnati so they had little leverage.
You have to remember that the Twins are only trading one season, or maybe just a third of a season, of Mauer before he becomes a free agent. Unless he is willing to sign for a lot less than market value at his new home, he isn't really worth that much in a trade. Pujols is different simply because he is locked in to a contract for next year at below market value - but the same thing would apply to him next year.
This is why I doubt they'll trade him, and if they end up not signing him and taking the two draft picks, that is better than taking just about any trade deal that you will get and having to deal with the fan base. Better PR to see him sign in New York for 7/200 and then explain that the Twins can't afford that contract.
Let's see...which contract should they trade?...The awesome catcher who is a hometown boy, or the awesome 1B (far less valuable position) who's not even a goddamn American for Chrissakes ;) ...That is of course, as I said above, if they need to trade one of them. Put yourselves in the shoes of the Twins' front office (preferably before you vote). Which one do you think is easier to sell to the hometown fans that have seen this happen over and over again, but also know that the post-season has come to Minneapolis/St. Paul inspite of these unfortunately necessary trades? I think Bill Smith improved his standing with the J.J. Hardy/Carlos Gomez swap, but the M & M boys are franchise players and I'm not sure I'd be entirely comfortable with Smith as the trigger man in that type of swap. Then again he has to get back up on the horse at some point and management may (or may not) be asking for a slimmer payroll. Now that I think a little more on it, with all the free agents they brought in trading either Morneau or Mauer will be a tough sell, but Mauer would be damn near impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
I'm thinking strictly in terms of talent, so hypothetically, you could assume that your team would agree to a contract with him to finalize the trade, that you didn't have budget issues, etc.
I'm just interested to see what type of trades somebody thinks their team would offer for Mauer or Pujols, again purely hypothetical and for fun, since I hope (and think) they'll both remain with their respective teams for their entire careers.
The pirates and royals should trade their whole teams for pujols and mauer and they can be better than last year!
If that's the kind of return they get, I think the local natives will be firing at a dartboard to choose which of Minnesota's 10,000 lakes to toss Smith into. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by etothep
Here are the Twins highest 2010 salaries:
Justin Morneau / $15,000,000
Joe Mauer / $12,500,000
Joe Nathan / $11,250,000
Michael Cuddyer / $9,417,000
Jason Kubel / $4,100,000
Nick Punto / $4,000,000
Scott Baker / $3,000,000
I'm certain if it came down to it they would look to trade Joe Nathan or Michael Cuddyer first, although Cuddyer's 2011 option was picked up this winter (since it was required in his contract apparently), and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that he becomes a 10-and-5 guy this season, so they'd have to trade him before the deadline.
Cuddyer is virtually untradeable in this "defense is important too" era. Talk about a stone glove. This offseason says: "We're going for it!". Trading Nathan, Morneau, or ack! Mauer says: "...Just kidding ;) ". Cuddyer would be the one to try to trade. Maybe there's a GM out there who hasn't figured out the defensive metrics, doesn't swoon for 5-tool outfielders and thinks they can take that bat and make him a superstar at age 31. Note: Dayton Moore is out because he likes toolsy players. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
You guys should trade Scott Baker to the Mariners. We'd send Alex Liddi your way! Future 3B!
Tang, who would you trade from Seattle to land either player?
Aj, who would you trade from Toronto to land either player?
HGM, who would you trade from Arizona?
Jntg, who would you trade from Chicago?
Either? Mauer or who? For the record, I wouldn't trade at all for Mauer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
If you wanted either Pujols or Mauer, who would you trade out of Seattle to land either player?Quote:
Originally Posted by 200tang