http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4938135
First case of a player being banned for testing positive for HGH (apparently). That's a potential gamechanger.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4938135
First case of a player being banned for testing positive for HGH (apparently). That's a potential gamechanger.
Thats great news!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4938135
HGH test coming to minor league baseball.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4940922
NFL getting in on the action?
So...I'm like the only person that cares about HGH testing in sports, huh?? This is a way bigger breakthrough than steriod cheaters...in my opinion.
http://dberri.wordpress.com/2007/04/...rowth-hormone/
http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomi...her-should-you
And, a bunch more articles from J.C. Bradbury:
http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomi...h-hormone-hgh/
http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomi...ne-hgh/page/2/
And another:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...U5c&refer=home
Don't you know that HGH and steroids have absolutely no effect on performance whatsoever. Guys just risk all the side effects for the fun of it. BABBLE BABBLE. Not illegal in MLB. BABBLE BABBLE BABBLE. Greenies. BABBLE BABBLE BABBLE. Spit Ballers. BABBLE BABBLE BABBLE. Bud Selig. BABBLE BABBLE BABBLE. Ty Cobb. BABBLE BABBLE BABBLE BABBLE.................
BABBLE BABBLE 300 IS ONLY A LITTLE GAY BABBLE BABBLE BABBLE I HATE SIDNEY CROSBY BABBLE BABBLE TY COBB BABBLE BABBLE BARRY BONDS BABBLE
babble
I don't think anyone questions whether they have ANY effect. I think they question HOW MUCH effect they have.
Also, a big reason that "nobody cares" is that it isn't just the ones that get caught that are cheating. No reason to punish McGwire so harshly for using when half the pitchers he homered off of were also probably using.
For steroids, yes. People certainly do question whether or not HGH has any performance-enhancing effects, as there have been many studies done that conclude that they don't.
Yeah, and further, this is all irrelevant since this topic has nothing to do with what has happened in the past and nothing to do with the Hall of Fame, as all of MichelleWie's "comments" refer to.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
which were all misleading, because nobody has ever said that HGH "used alone" will provide performance enhancement. Yet people with an agenda try to use these studies which are irrelevant to muddy the waters and mislead.Quote:
For steroids, yes. People certainly do question whether or not HGH has any performance-enhancing effects, as there have been many studies done that conclude that they don't.
Where did MichelleWie say anything whatsoever about the hall of fame?Quote:
Yeah, and further, this is all irrelevant since this topic has nothing to do with what has happened in the past and nothing to do with the Hall of Fame, as all of MichelleWie's "comments" refer to.
This has all the makings of an 8 page back and forth.
All this means to me is that the new undetectable drug is already in use or about to be