Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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Originally Posted by
BINGLEBOP
I agree for the most part. He's obviously going to have to work much, much harder to get back to where he was, and not just with his corporate sponsors, but in the "eyes of his fans". At the same time, hopefully people will leave him alone now. I can do without the helicopter footage of him getting in an SUV or without the pictures of his motorcade driving in. And if it's true that the paparazzi followed his child to school and even published the location, that's despicable. Obviously, many of the things he did were despicable, but like he said, that's for him and Elin to work out. I won't serve as an armchair character commentator since I'm nowhere close to perfect myself. He knows what he has to do now, and I'm sure he'll work toward that. I have no concern for Tiger Woods since he can take care of his own problems, so I don't have to talk about them anymore.
The more notable you are, the bigger news it is when you do something stupid.
Every article published in our local paper for example...if you are someone of reputable name, and get arrested or do anything stupid...........bam...........front page news............if you are just some idiot that no one really knows, it goes in the police report and that is it.
a couple of our college football players got in a brawl and were given assault charges.....front page news about every little thing in the kids lives for 10 days.
tuesday a local lawyer apparently assaulted his wife........biggest news in the god damn world I guess....but the 2 other assault charges in the police report go in there without a word, but bc the lawyer was well known, it gets plastered.....be careful how much fame you get I guess.
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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Originally Posted by
OregonDuck1989
If he wants to retire and go on a speaking tour about the dangers of sex addiction then he can do that.
Oh please, the Sex addiction thing is total ********. He's not addicted to sex anymore than anyone else is.
I mean this was a guy that was dubbed Urkel by his college golf team ..
That mean he was a geek by the standards of guys who play golf at Stanford.
He was just a geek that became super rich and famous and found he could get it where ever he wanted --
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Did I say I believed it? No. I just said I wouldn't care if he went on a speaking tour on it since his PR people obviously decided to take that route.
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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Originally Posted by
gRYFYN1
Oh please, the Sex addiction thing is total ********. He's not addicted to sex anymore than anyone else is.
I mean this was a guy that was dubbed Urkel by his college golf team ..
That mean he was a geek by the standards of guys who play golf at Stanford.
He was just a geek that became super rich and famous and found he could get it where ever he wanted --
addiction is NOT a disease! Not for alcohol and certainly not for sex. I agree with your sentiments.
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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dickay
addiction is NOT a disease! Not for alcohol and certainly not for sex. I agree with your sentiments.
Alcohol addiction is a disease according to the major medical bodies in America.
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
As the saying goes, a man is as loyal as his options
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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HoustonGM
Alcohol addiction is a disease according to the major medical bodies in America.
yeah, it apparently is, I don't believe it...I agree with dickay on this one....but I don't voice it often that I think that way, because it upsets people that believe it is a disease........south park had a great episode over this.
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The only proven way for true alcoholics to recover is when the alcoholism is treated like a disease. Treat the symptoms and not the disease directly. A disease never completely goes away. A person can live a long life with a disease, but only with proper monitoring and treatment of the symptoms. The same is true of alcoholism.
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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Originally Posted by
dickay
addiction is NOT a disease! Not for alcohol and certainly not for sex. I agree with your sentiments.
Hmm...who to believe, some guy who misspelled his name on an internet forum or the medical community. :confused:
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
yeah, it apparently is, I don't believe it...I agree with dickay on this one....but I don't voice it often that I think that way, because it upsets people that believe it is a disease........south park had a great episode over this.
We disagree on this point Jeffy. However I think people who will get upset over that need to find something else to do with themselves. I have found that disagreeing with somebody is stress-free. Making a big deal out of disagreements leads to way more stress than I need.
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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dickay
he doesn't owe anyone but his family anything. The BIGGEST WHORES in this whole thing is the media. They love this sh!t. They are making this the story it is, pulling their Brett Favre playbook and using it to extremes. Whats going on today, all the media spending 3/4 the day making this "apology" larger than any issue in the world is deplorable.
Why doesn't the public ever take issue with the media on this type of gossip crap? Easy answer.....its because the media molds the story so that it could never get to that point.
I'm exhausted with it all. Enough Tiger Woods. Only the media can make a guy like this look like a victim.
I despise the media as much as the next guy, but they're only being that way, because THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. Yes, not you or me personally, and not the majority of this forum (I hope). But we're in the minority, and we have to understand that. Other people are not like us, and it's difficult to accept that fact sometimes. The public doesn't care enough to make this an issue and consider Tiger Woods or his family, because they're too enamored in the situation. It's why gossip sites like TMZ and Perez Hilton are two of the most popular websites in existence. We "have to know" everything about these people. It's some innate voyeurism on our parts, whether they're on top of the world or whether we're watching them fall apart. And it's why ESPN will always feature the Red Sox and Yankees more than they do the Pirates or Rays. Not because of the larger markets, but because love or hate those teams, we "need" to read everything about them to further justify our love or hate for them. The only way this will ever change is if one by one, we stop ourselves from caring so much, and simply TUNE OUT.
But that will never happen.
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Originally Posted by
BINGLEBOP
I despise the media as much as the next guy, but they're only being that way, because THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. Yes, not you or me personally, and not the majority of this forum (I hope). But we're in the minority, and we have to understand that. Other people are not like us, and it's difficult to accept that fact sometimes. The public doesn't care enough to make this an issue and consider Tiger Woods or his family, because they're too enamored in the situation. It's why gossip sites like TMZ and Perez Hilton are two of the most popular websites in existence. We "have to know" everything about these people. It's some innate voyeurism on our parts, whether they're on top of the world or whether we're watching them fall apart. And it's why ESPN will always feature the Red Sox and Yankees more than they do the Pirates or Rays. Not because of the larger markets, but because love or hate those teams, we "need" to read everything about them to further justify our love or hate for them. The only way this will ever change is if one by one, we stop ourselves from caring so much, and simply TUNE OUT.
But that will never happen.
This post makes the most sense I have read on this forum yet.
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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Originally Posted by
Rexington
We disagree on this point Jeffy. However I think people who will get upset over that need to find something else to do with themselves. I have found that disagreeing with somebody is stress-free. Making a big deal out of disagreements leads to way more stress than I need.
I agree....or should I disagree?
Now i am confused ;)
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
I agree....or should I disagree?
Now i am confused ;)
smart***:p
Re: Hey Tiger, just walk away
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
Alcohol addiction is a disease according to the major medical bodies in America.
and there are also many in the field that dispute this and feel that the AMA and such medical bodies had certain agendas in mind when creating this "disease theory". Regardless, I am of the opinion its not a disease and such classification is more harmful than helpful. By taking away personal responsibility, you give an alcoholic an excuse.
But thats about all i'm going to say on the issue.
