wait...the yankees did this?

http://www.comcast.net/articles/spor.../Yankees-Winn/

Letting Damon walk and signing Winn...for 2 million... to replace him?

Thats something the Mets would do.....

It is. Especially with Gardner & Granderson already on the roster and their inability to hit LHP.

Cliff Lee will say sup to you in the playoffs. Cya!

i think its a quality move. they got him dirt cheap and i think at a value. over his career I beleive he's OK against LHP, he's got good speed, is supposedly a great clubhouse guy, and at least I think he's a solid defensive OF. The last part of that is something the Yanks have struggled with Damon and Matsui on. Winn and Granderson are nice OF improvements defensively. IMO, Winns bat is serviceable.

Damons bat was built for Yankee Stadium, but at the price he's requesting i'd let the door hit him in the a$$ too.

Well, I'm sure Damon's asking price hasn't dropped to $2 MM yet. ;)

You mean the Yanks.....have a budget!!?!?.......gasp!

They're saving up for next year's batch of free agents. A lot of nice players available next year.

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They're saving up for next year's batch of free agents. A lot of nice players available next year.

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Budgets don't carry over. I don't know why people believe this. Hence why Oakland went out and has tried to sign guys like Beltre and went out and got Sheets.

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Budgets don't carry over. I don't know why people believe this. Hence why Oakland went out and has tried to sign guys like Beltre and went out and got Sheets.

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however contracts do. its not a terrible thought to believe a team might be looking long term and not want to be tied to long term contracts.

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however contracts do. its not a terrible thought to believe a team might be looking long term and not want to be tied to long term contracts.

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Right, but we're talking about a one year deal here, so contract length doesn't matter.

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Right, but we're talking about a one year deal here, so contract length doesn't matter.

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he clearly wasn't referring to this deal though, moreso Damons who is requesting a long term deal. He was explaining why they did this deal instead of Damon or a bigger name.

BTW, Dickay, Winn is a superb fielder. (Referring to you saying you think he's solid)

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he clearly wasn't referring to this deal though, moreso Damons who is requesting a long term deal. He was explaining why they did this deal instead of Damon or a bigger name.

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My mistake then. I just assumed he meant they were gonna save money and have it carry over to next year.

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My mistake then. I just assumed he meant they were gonna save money and have it carry over to next year.

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well, maybe i'm taking his comments wrong lol. i clearly took that he was saying they signed this short term deal so that money would be available for players they anticipate will be available next year or after.

i don't necessarily agree with that. i think it may be a small part of their thinking process but i doubt an overwhelming factor.

but maybe you're right...maybe he's saying they want to grow their piggy bank lmfao??:D

I don't see this as an improvement over Gardner.

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I don't think it's meant to be.

I think it's meant to be an improvement over Granderson vs LHP.

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Exactly.. Fire Cashman now. This guy is the worst GM

:rolleyes:

we'll trade you omar

We'll trade the Mets Ryan Langerhans for Niese and F-Mart.

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Exactly.. Fire Cashman now. This guy is the worst GM

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do.................the Yankees actually have a budget this year? :eek: ?

nah

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we'll trade you omar

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I'd like to see JP Richardi and Omar in the same room... :)
Both guys would be worse than having William Hung be GM

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Nope.. bad move after bad move. This isn't the first time he has made a HORRIBLE move at all. See Curtis Granderson, Xavier Nady, Ivan Rodriguez, Jason Giambi, Carl Pavano, Jared Wright, Gary Sheffield, and so on and so on

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Nope.. bad move after bad move. This isn't the first time he has made a HORRIBLE move at all. See Curtis Granderson, Xavier Nady, Ivan Rodriguez, Jason Giambi, Carl Pavano, Jared Wright, Gary Sheffield, and so on and so on

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Granderson was a fine move. Rodriguez wasn't, well, any sort of move. Wasn't bad, wasn't good, just average, providing some depth. Giambi wasn't terrible. Sheffield was fine for two years but Cashman managed to actually get something for him when his time was up. Wright and Pavano were bad, yes... but, you'll see, Cashman didn't get full control of them until the past couple years - previously, the Steinbrenners had a lot of input into the roster. Now, it's Cashman's, and since then, he hasn't made poor FA moves like Pavano and Wright and the farm system and young talent has increased greatly.

This Winn deal, too, can't be described as "horrible." It's 2 million bucks, chump change, for one year. Even if Winn sucks, the Yankees lose nothing.

Cashman is one of the better GM's in the league. I don't know why you have such a terrible view of him.

You forgot to include the Javier Vazquez deal. Terrible move by the Yankees.

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You forgot to include the Javier Vazquez deal. Terrible move by the Yankees.

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Oh, right. SO BAD!

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I'd like to see JP Richardi and Omar in the same room... :)
Both guys would be worse than having William Hung be GM

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A William Hung reference? Did I fall into a time warp tonite?

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Granderson was a fine move. Rodriguez wasn't, well, any sort of move. Wasn't bad, wasn't good, just average, providing some depth. Giambi wasn't terrible. Sheffield was fine for two years but Cashman managed to actually get something for him when his time was up. Wright and Pavano were bad, yes... but, you'll see, Cashman didn't get full control of them until the past couple years - previously, the Steinbrenners had a lot of input into the roster. Now, it's Cashman's, and since then, he hasn't made poor FA moves like Pavano and Wright and the farm system and young talent has increased greatly.

This Winn deal, too, can't be described as "horrible." It's 2 million bucks, chump change, for one year. Even if Winn sucks, the Yankees lose nothing.

Cashman is one of the better GM's in the league. I don't know why you have such a terrible view of him.

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2 million bucks to a major league baseball team, especially the Yankees, is nothing.

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Right, but we're talking about a one year deal here, so contract length doesn't matter.

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There was absolutely no way that Damon would have returned to New York on an one-year deal. Even if he wanted it . . . Boras wouldn't let him.

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do.................the Yankees actually have a budget this year? :eek: ?

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Just don't want so many long-term contracts . . . I'm sure they're salivating over next year's batch of free agents.

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A William Hung reference? Did I fall into a time warp tonite?

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lol I bought his CD

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Just don't want so many long-term contracts . . . I'm sure they're salivating over next year's batch of free agents.

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If Lee, Mauer etc reach free agency ;)

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If Lee, Mauer etc reach free agency ;)

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Scary if Lee made it there... replace Pettite wiht Lee.
*shudders*

i can't believe how outrageous some of these comments are seeing we're talking about a 4th OF'er signed for 2mil and 1 year. :rolleyes:

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i can't believe how outrageous some of these comments are seeing we're talking about a 4th OF'er signed for 2mil and 1 year. :rolleyes:

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its just because people are not used to that :p

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If Lee, Mauer etc reach free agency ;)

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If the Twins fail to re-sign Mauer . . . that will just be epic fail on their part. Lee has made it known that he will test the free agency market no matter what. And I think that a number of quality players are going to be free agents. It will be a nice field to pick and choose the players you need.

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There was absolutely no way that Damon would have returned to New York on an one-year deal. Even if he wanted it . . . Boras wouldn't let him.

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Kidding right? Or are you confusing agent with slave-master?

It was a joke. Though if it happened, Boras would basically be admitting that he f'ed in the initial negotiations.

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i can't believe how outrageous some of these comments are seeing we're talking about a 4th OF'er signed for 2mil and 1 year. :rolleyes:

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Especially considering the Cubs just signed a 4th outfielder, who hasn't even played since 2008, and is coming off a second Tommy John surgery, to a 1 year 3.3 million contract. Wynn looks like a good signing compared to that. Yankee haters take a rest...