you watch his interview on mlb network?
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you watch his interview on mlb network?
Canseco is an interesting character, haha. Very entertaining.
I did. he is very pompus
Fair enough, but as much as he's ripped for running his mouth on the steroid issue, he has, time and again, been ultimately proven to be telling the truth on a lot of what he has said.
Yes and no. I dont know if u saw the comentary after the intervies, or the interview itself, but they made a good point (I think it was Mitch Williams), yes we need to look into what he is saying, but take it with a grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by StreetMedic
He may be spilling the beans on a lot of players but he is also giving a lot of double talk. In his book he states he injected Mack "more times than he can remember" but when Mack was interviewed he said Jose never injected him and if he did it was MAYBE one time, not all the time like Jose said
Then in this interview Jose tried to take it back and say he injected lots of people and thats what he meant.
Believe him, but not word for word.
Jose Canseco has been right a lot more than he's been wrong on this issue. Yeah, he is self-serving, but that doesn't change the facts.....he's been vindicated. He was right, those that laughed at him were wrong. Doesn't make every single detail correct.....but his main message....pretty spot on I'd say.
I nominate Jose Canseco for the HOF because he helped clean up the game and had one of the all-time greatest careers.
Also, he's famous, and you know, it's the Hall of Fame!Quote:
Originally Posted by 200tang
Why stop there? Canseco for commissioner!Quote:
Originally Posted by 200tang
that, and he has changed his timeline countless times.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
McGwire did roids in 88....then he said, I don't remember if he did roids in 88....then he said, I don't think McGwire was doing roids in 88, and finally....remember injecting McGwire in a clubhouse bathroom stall in 88.
how about some consistency!
I love how he said we should put McGwire on a polygraph to see if he is telling the truth about me injecting him!
haha, Canseco, nobody gives a **** about you. That interview made it appear he is doing this solely as a self serving, attempt to make he and everybody else look bad.
It was awful!
I agree more with this statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
That interview really annoyed me though.
Canseco is just trying to keep himself relevant.
He probably wants a tv movie about his life (that way his brother could get some cash)
Where has BINGLE been lately? I'm sure he'd have something witty to say. Last I remember he was making a new forum and then he disappeared.
/offtawpic
Slightly off-topic, but speaking of self-serving a$$holes, how did I know this was coming? A true attention whore if ever there was one. :p
he is writing a third book.Quote:
Originally Posted by reflections
what new info he will share i have no idea.
sweet!Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
Would I want to hang out with Canseco? no, but he did what Mcgwire and others didn't. He told the truth
he told the truth 5 years later :)
so did A-Rod ;)
Once his career was over and he needed to make money.Quote:
Originally Posted by guidi2009
You can't praise Canseco for telling the truth a couple years after he retired when he was in financial straits while at the same time criticizing McGwire for telling the truth because he wants to contribute to baseball again.
touche HGM
While Jose did prove to be right on many accounts, he has also obviously gone way to far with all of this. He's taking all the credibility earned and spreading it quite thinly.
He knows he can say anything and he'll get TV time and book sales, therefore the incentive is for him to blabber on about anything.
I think Canseco should be done, he said what he wanted to say now go away.
Funny
I just watched the Rookie again last night
the 3 jerseys of guys on the team
Boggs
Canseco
Mcgriff
:p
Maybe. But McGwire's being let back in with open arms, and Canseco will likely be stoned to death if he sets foot in a major league stadium again.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Canseco blew the whistle, and he blew it loud...and he's been right more often than...well, McGwire.
Canseco was also trying to essentially damage the industry of baseball. He was pissed because he thought he was blackballed out of the league and wanted revenge.
So...McGwire isn't being self serving by admitting to things now that he wants back in to the game? Sorry, that doesn't make sense. If Canseco was doing so when he wrote the books (and he was), then McGwire is doing the same thing now.
He's already back in the game, he was on the Cardinals coaching roster before he came out and talked about it. He didn't have to fess up to it like he did. At all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Blast
Canseco is a scumbag, yet he told the truth. McGwire held on to the lie until he re-entered baseball this year. Who is actually the bigger scumbag? The only reason Mark came clean is that LaRussa whispered in his ear. And he still is lying. "I only used it to come back from injury. " He was a steroid case in college.
I think McGwire is way worse than Canseco.
Canseco didn't tell the truth until he needed money.Quote:
Originally Posted by grasshopper
And you know this how? Why would he admit to the most damning thing of all (using steroids in 1998), but lie about when he started?Quote:
Originally Posted by grasshopper
http://bases.nbcsports.com/2010/01/t...think.html.php
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I actually agree with 90% of what La Russa says regarding McGwire in this interview. And I completely understand both the intellectual and emotional reasons for why he defends Mark McGwire. But for him to continue to claim that he had no idea what was happening in his clubhouse without anyone accusing him of incompetence, willful ignorance or tacit complicity is utterly baffling to me.
The only conclusion I can draw is that those who claim L'affaire McGwire is such a big deal are not nearly as serious about the subject of steroids in baseball as they are in scoring easy points and trafficking in phony moral outrage. Because if the outrage was real, it would be directed at Tony La Russa. And Bud Selig. And the owners, agents, managers, sponsors, reporters and everyone else who either knew about steroids or were willfully blind to the issue back in the day.
I feel Canseco is self serving because of his current attitude. I don't see McGwire coming clean on any of this to self serve at all. I think he feels he needed to. It's not like he was forced to, he could have coached and never came clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arctic Blast
Canseco just wants attention, and wants people to think he still matters.
I like Canseco a lot. He's one of the major baseball figures of this era and I do believe for his whistleblowing he should make the Hall of Fame in the Innovators wing.
I wanted to point out that this was one of the few things that have been said on this subject that I can actually get behind to some extent. Not that what McGwire did wasn't a big deal, but what the coaches, management, and executives did in regards to steroids was every bit as bad.Quote:
The only conclusion I can draw is that those who claim L'affaire McGwire is such a big deal are not nearly as serious about the subject of steroids in baseball as they are in scoring easy points and trafficking in phony moral outrage. Because if the outrage was real, it would be directed at Tony La Russa. And Bud Selig. And the owners, agents, managers, sponsors, reporters and everyone else who either knew about steroids or were willfully blind to the issue back in the day.
The fact that I agreed with HGM on something makes me sad, and I'm gonna go have a stiff drink now. :)
I think we agree on more than you let alone here. A lot of political issues, for example, :).Quote:
Originally Posted by oriole^