The Language of FanGraphs
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Acronyms I say:
FIP - rhymes with hip.
wOBA - woah-buh, emphasis on first syllable, rhymes with toga (sort of?).
SLG - slug, like the animal.
BABIP - bab-ip, rhymes with nothing, no idea why I say this.
ISO - eye-so, this is actually a word, so that helps.
WHIP - pronounced like Indy's weapon
LOB% - lob percentage, said like its the rate of soft-tossed pitches
WAR - said like a really big fight
Acronyms I spell:
E-R-A - not sure why I don't say era, like a period of time, but I don't.
O-B-P - are you down with OBP? Yeah, you know me.
O-P-S - not ops, as in operation, and never heard it said that way.
U-Z-R - someone once called it "oozer", and I tried not to laugh.
W-P-A - can't even figure out how I would say this? "whoop-a?"
W-R-A-A - no way I'm going to say "were-aahh" to someone.
So, that's my list. I know everyone does it differently, though, so I'm curious, which ones do you spell and which ones do you say? And does anyone have any idea why?
Purely coincidental, I guess, but I pronounce all the acronyms the same as Dave Cameron does, except wOBA, which I spell out.
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I don't think I've ever had the occasion to utter any of these aloud.
But in my head, i match, except wOBA as well.
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Alloutwar
I don't think I've ever had the occasion to utter any of these aloud.
But in my head, i match, except wOBA as well.
I haven't said much of them aloud, as well, but that's how I pronounce them in my head when I'm reading.
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Hm. ERA I spell out; WHIP I pronounce as the word "whip"; most of the others I actualy say the full term if I'm speaking aloud, i.e., for OBP I say "on-base percentage".
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I say woah-buh in my head too :3
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In my head it is woah-buh, like Cameron, but ops (one syllable) or ops-plus, which is apparently different.
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kenny1234
In my head it is woah-buh, like Cameron, but ops (one syllable) or ops-plus, which is apparently different.
Yeah, it's different. OPS is on-base percentage plus slugging percentage. For example, if your stat line is .340/.402/.519, your OPS is .921 (.402+.519=.921, unless my math skills have deteriorated a lot more than I think). OPS+ is essentially your OPS compared to the league average, with some adjustments (park effects mostly, though not all sources calculate the numbers exactly the same).
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dps
Yeah, it's different. OPS is on-base percentage plus slugging percentage. For example, if your stat line is .340/.402/.519, your OPS is .921 (.402+.519=.921, unless my math skills have deteriorated a lot more than I think). OPS+ is essentially your OPS compared to the league average, with some adjustments (park effects mostly, though not all sources calculate the numbers exactly the same).
I think kenny meant "different from how Cameron says it". :p
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HoustonGM
I think kenny meant "different from how Cameron says it". :p
Oops. :o
BTW, oops isn't a sabermetric stat. :D
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dps
Oops. :o
BTW, oops isn't a sabermetric stat. :D
Opponents OPS :p
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Here is where the creator of wOBA got his inspiration for the name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maYnqbdo2jw
He discusses it here:
Q: wOBA, huh? Every time I see this stat, or even think about it, I will always think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maYnq...eature=related
A: Busted.
You are the first person to mention this to me. I watched alot of Sesame Street with my boy, and that song was *definitely* a reason that I named it wOBA. I wanted to give the name something light. I used to call it lwtsOBA or lwtsOBP (for linear weights), and I was thinking of also wOBP. But, wOBA worked for the name, and making it match to the song was my little secret.
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HoustonGM
I match on them all except wOBA and UZR. UZR I pronounce "oozier"
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I almost posted this, then I didn't.
I was going to have a poll because I can't fathom that people don't SAY "OPS"
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filihok
I was going to have a poll because I can't fathom that people don't SAY "OPS"
What do you mean?
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HoustonGM
I am the same way as you then.
Imagine if announcers started saying era - like it was a general amount of time and not letters?
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HoustonGM
What do you mean?
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Acronyms I spell:
O-P-S - not ops, as in operation, and never heard it said that way.
I SAY it like a word. Ops. Like Oops. But Ops. Special Ops.
I find it odd that the majority spell it out
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filihok
I SAY it like a word. Ops. Like Oops. But Ops. Special Ops.
I find it odd that the majority spell it out
That's what I thought you meant but wanted to make sure.
I find it odd that there are people that say it rather than spell it out. :p I've read some people state that they say it like you do, but I don't think I've ever actually heard it pronounced anyway besides spelled out.
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WAR - said like a really big fight
oddly Ive always pronounces thie "wear", not sure why.
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FIP - rhymes with hip.- Agree
wOBA - woah-buh
SLG - "slugging percentage"
BABIP - bab-ip
WHIP - pronounced like Indy's weapon
WAR - said like a really big fight
E-R-A - yep
O-B-P - yep
O-P-S - yep
U-Z-R - yep
W-P-A - yep
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Now that I think about it, there are few that I actually spell out in my head. ERA is one. But on-base percentage, zone rating (dropping the ultimate tag) and win probability added I would say in words, not letters, and I use the words not the letters in my head. Same with batting average on balls in play.
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gRYFYN1
oddly Ive always pronounces thie "wear", not sure why.
This one, I actually say (again, in my head) like:
waaaar
like the band GWAR, just without the G.
So instead of War and Peace, more like waaaahr.
That makes sense to me, because War is really pronounced like 'WOR'. The small, lonely a should just be a quick 'ah' sound, not an 'uh' or 'oh' sound.
