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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Same with Theo Epstein!
Boston did make a trade.
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Does John Mozeliak know he can make trades in the offseason? God he hasn't made any! What a terrible GM! Same with Theo Epstein!
we didn't need to make any, just resign holliday, add a few back ups....Cardinals don't need to improve this off-season, same with the red sox....free agency my friend can be just as valuable to a team.
but your mets.........now that's another story
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
200tang
Boston did make a trade.
Oh yeah! Forgot! Bill Hall!
Championship here they come!
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
we didn't need to make any, just resign holliday, add a few back ups....Cardinals don't need to improve this off-season, same with the red sox....free agency my friend can be just as valuable to a team.
but your mets.........now that's another story
Hey they signed Jason Bay.
DONE
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
we didn't need to make any, just resign holliday, add a few back ups....Cardinals don't need to improve this off-season, same with the red sox....free agency my friend can be just as valuable to a team.
but your mets.........now that's another story
Uh...
We have like 4 All-Stars in our starting lineup (Reyes, Bay, Beltran, Wright) and a good cast of supporting players (Francoeur, Pagan, Murphy, Castillo, etc), along with one of the best pitchers in baseball and an improved bullpen.
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
Don't forget Bengie Molina when Omar signs him to a 3/$70
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(Francoeur, Pagan, Murphy, Castillo, etc)
Those aren't good role players...
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
OregonDuck1989
Hey they signed Jason Bay.
DONE
Yeah we just signed Jason Bay.
And Henry Blanco to fill our backup catcher role.
And Alex Cora as a backup shortstop
And Ryota Igarashi, Clint Everts, Kelvim Escobar, Jay Marshall for the bullpen
And Chris Coste, Mike Hessman, Andy Green, Russ Adams, etc for depth... which we didn't have last year
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Uh...
We have like 4 All-Stars in our starting lineup (Reyes, Bay, Beltran, Wright) and a good cast of supporting players (Francoeur, Pagan, Murphy, Castillo, etc), along with one of the best pitchers in baseball and an improved bullpen.
oh! that's why you won 70 games after setting a new record for team budget!
****, that's all it took.
got it.
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Originally Posted by
200tang
(Francoeur, Pagan, Murphy, Castillo, etc)
Those aren't good role players...
Uh...
that's a pretty damn good supporting cast if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Uh...
that's a pretty damn good supporting cast if you ask me.
That's why I didn't ask you. I just told you they're not.
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Originally Posted by
200tang
(Francoeur, Pagan, Murphy, Castillo, etc)
Those aren't good role players...
One of them is!
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
oh! that's why you won 70 games after setting a new record for team budget!
****, that's all it took.
got it.
The Mets really aren't that bad of a team. Last year they were wrecked by injuries.
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Yeah we just signed Jason Bay.
And Henry Blanco to fill our backup catcher role.
And Alex Cora as a backup shortstop
And Ryota Igarashi, Clint Everts, Kelvim Escobar, Jay Marshall for the bullpen
And Chris Coste, Mike Hessman, Andy Green, Russ Adams, etc for depth... which we didn't have last year
doesn't look like you added much at all.
Bay, i mean, he should be pretty valuable, maybe not for what he will get paid...but hey, he isn't that bad.
the Mets need to be healthy, and get a pitching rotation.
I would have thought they would have tried for Lackey over Bay personally.
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Originally Posted by
200tang
That's why I didn't ask you. I just told you they're not.
and you are right, they really aren't.
Murphy and Franky can be solid players at times.
but really they aren't solid role players that you can depend on.
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
The Mets really aren't that bad of a team. Last year they were wrecked by injuries.
i know.....but it's fun to pick.
I have them winning 87 this year
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
and you are right, they really aren't.
Murphy and Franky can be solid players at times.
but really they aren't solid role players that you can depend on.
Murphy and Francoeur are the two worst players of those four .lol
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
oh! that's why you won 70 games after setting a new record for team budget!
****, that's all it took.
got it.
Yeah remember how everyone was totally healthy!
We had great lineups like this:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00908170.shtml
1. Cory Sullivan CF
2. Luis Castillo 2B
3. Gary Sheffield LF
4. Daniel Murphy 1B
5. Jeff Francoeur RF
6. Fernando Tatis 3B
7. Brian Schneider C
8. Anderson Hernandez SS
9. Livan Hernandez P
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Originally Posted by
Jeffy25
i know.....but it's fun to pick.
I have them winning 87 this year
That's what TNP has the entire NL East winning lol
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Originally Posted by
200tang
That's why I didn't ask you. I just told you they're not.
I'm sorry we can't all be the Mariners.
They're a pretty awesome supporting cast regardless of what you or your stats say.
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Yeah remember how everyone was totally healthy!
We had great lineups like this:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00908170.shtml
1. Cory Sullivan CF
2. Luis Castillo 2B
3. Gary Sheffield LF
4. Daniel Murphy 1B
5. Jeff Francoeur RF
6. Fernando Tatis 3B
7. Brian Schneider C
8. Anderson Hernandez SS
9. Livan Hernandez P
if you could go back 3-4 years, Castillo, Sheff, Tatis and Hernandez would all be solid players :)
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
Murphy and Francoeur are the two worst players of those four .lol
Uh.
Apparently you never have watched Angel Pagan play.
Hint: he sucks
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Uh.
Apparently you never have watched Angel Pagan play.
Hint: he sucks
Apparently you don't know anything about baseball.
Hint: You're wrong.
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
I'm sorry we can't all be the Mariners.
They're a pretty awesome supporting cast regardless of what you or your stats say.
Grit. Determination. Hardwork. Grit. Toughness. Grit. Size of glove. Grit. Number of swings a player takes in a warm up. Grit. Shoe size. Grit. Toughness. Number of haircuts a player gets during a single season. Grit. Determination.
That's what makes a great ballplayer
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
Apparently you don't know anything about baseball.
Hint: You're wrong.
He makes stupid mistakes all the time and doesn't have a knowledge of baseball fundamentals. His stats don't tell the full story here. You need to see him play to pass judgment.
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Originally Posted by
OregonDuck1989
Grit. Determination. Hardwork. Grit. Toughness. Grit. Size of glove. Grit. Number of swings a player takes in a warm up. Grit. Shoe size. Grit. Toughness. Number of haircuts a player gets during a single season. Grit. Determination.
That's what makes a great ballplayer
You need to weigh stats with intangibles and scouting. Intangibles exist, I'm sorry you sabermetricians don't believe that.
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Four of the most tired cliches from articles written by Bill Plaschke
Ftfy.
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
You need to weigh stats with intangibles and scouting. Intangibles exist, I'm sorry you sabermetricians don't believe that.
I know they exist. But they don't make Jeff Francouer good all of the sudden.
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
Ftfy.
Podp.
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
OregonDuck1989
I know they exist. But they don't make Jeff Francouer good all of the sudden.
Rocket arm, great defense (OMG, everyone else will say, HIS UZR IS SO LOW HOW CAN HE BE A GOOD DEFENDER), very good hitting for contact and for power, and intangibles
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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metsguy234
Rocket arm, great defense (OMG, everyone else will say, HIS UZR IS SO LOW HOW CAN HE BE A GOOD DEFENDER), very good hitting for contact and for power, and intangibles
I had no idea a .271 career average hitter with 88 HR in six seasons was very good hitting. I am shocked.
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
Rocket arm, great defense (OMG, everyone else will say, HIS UZR IS SO LOW HOW CAN HE BE A GOOD DEFENDER), very good hitting for contact and for power, and intangibles
Actually, his UZR paints the picture he's a good defender, but you know..
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
OregonDuck1989
I had no idea a .271 career average hitter with 88 HR in six seasons was very good hitting. I am shocked.
Not only that but a .432 slugging percent from a corner outfielder. Where's his plaque in Cooperstown!?
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Originally Posted by
200tang
Actually, his UZR paints the picture he's a good defender, but you know..
So we're in agreement. Sabermetricians can no longer say Frenchy is a bad defender.
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Originally Posted by
OregonDuck1989
I had no idea a .271 career average hitter with 88 HR in six seasons was very good hitting. I am shocked.
It's about the timeliness of his hits
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YEAH DAAAAWG
Not only that but a .432 slugging percent from a corner outfielder. Where's his plaque in Cooperstown!?
Frenchy ownz
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Originally Posted by
200tang
Actually, his UZR paints the picture he's a good defender, but you know..
Not in the last two years (-4.7, -6.1). He had an absurd +16.5 arm rating in 2007. That's unrepeatable and the only thing keeping his overall UZR very high.
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
It's about the timeliness of his hits
lol. You're pretty funny man.
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Re: Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club
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Originally Posted by
metsguy234
It's about the timeliness of his hits
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I Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+
High Lvrge 407 643 588 146 29 2 15 156 3 4 34 109 .248 .298 .381 .678 224 37 11 1 9 8 5 .277 84
Medium Lvrge 605 1082 1010 286 61 7 40 154 3 6 50 199 .283 .321 .476 .797 481 17 11 0 11 5 6 .315 113
Low Lvrge 567 1215 1145 311 59 5 33 90 3 1 54 214 .272 .310 .418 .729 479 10 12 0 4 11 12 .308 96
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
Not in the last two years (-4.7, -6.1). He had an absurd +16.5 arm rating in 2007. That's unrepeatable and the only thing keeping his overall UZR very high.
I'm just saying, if anything you can't complain about his UZR. Not that I expect him to be a + defender moving forward.
