Aroldis Chapman signs 30MM contract with NLC club

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Yeah remember how everyone was totally healthy!

We had great lineups like this:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00908170.shtml


1. Cory Sullivan CF
2. Luis Castillo 2B
3. Gary Sheffield LF
4. Daniel Murphy 1B
5. Jeff Francoeur RF
6. Fernando Tatis 3B
7. Brian Schneider C
8. Anderson Hernandez SS
9. Livan Hernandez P

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if you could go back 3-4 years, Castillo, Sheff, Tatis and Hernandez would all be solid players :)

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Murphy and Francoeur are the two worst players of those four .lol

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Uh.

Apparently you never have watched Angel Pagan play.

Hint: he sucks

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Uh.

Apparently you never have watched Angel Pagan play.

Hint: he sucks

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Apparently you don't know anything about baseball.

Hint: You're wrong.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

I'm sorry we can't all be the Mariners.

They're a pretty awesome supporting cast regardless of what you or your stats say.

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Grit. Determination. Hardwork. Grit. Toughness. Grit. Size of glove. Grit. Number of swings a player takes in a warm up. Grit. Shoe size. Grit. Toughness. Number of haircuts a player gets during a single season. Grit. Determination.

That's what makes a great ballplayer

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Apparently you don't know anything about baseball.

Hint: You're wrong.

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He makes stupid mistakes all the time and doesn't have a knowledge of baseball fundamentals. His stats don't tell the full story here. You need to see him play to pass judgment.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

Grit. Determination. Hardwork. Grit. Toughness. Grit. Size of glove. Grit. Number of swings a player takes in a warm up. Grit. Shoe size. Grit. Toughness. Number of haircuts a player gets during a single season. Grit. Determination.

That's what makes a great ballplayer

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You need to weigh stats with intangibles and scouting. Intangibles exist, I'm sorry you sabermetricians don't believe that.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Four of the most tired cliches from articles written by Bill Plaschke

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Ftfy.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

You need to weigh stats with intangibles and scouting. Intangibles exist, I'm sorry you sabermetricians don't believe that.

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I know they exist. But they don't make Jeff Francouer good all of the sudden.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Ftfy.

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Podp.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

I know they exist. But they don't make Jeff Francouer good all of the sudden.

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Rocket arm, great defense (OMG, everyone else will say, HIS UZR IS SO LOW HOW CAN HE BE A GOOD DEFENDER), very good hitting for contact and for power, and intangibles

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Rocket arm, great defense (OMG, everyone else will say, HIS UZR IS SO LOW HOW CAN HE BE A GOOD DEFENDER), very good hitting for contact and for power, and intangibles

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I had no idea a .271 career average hitter with 88 HR in six seasons was very good hitting. I am shocked.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Rocket arm, great defense (OMG, everyone else will say, HIS UZR IS SO LOW HOW CAN HE BE A GOOD DEFENDER), very good hitting for contact and for power, and intangibles

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Actually, his UZR paints the picture he's a good defender, but you know..

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

I had no idea a .271 career average hitter with 88 HR in six seasons was very good hitting. I am shocked.

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Not only that but a .432 slugging percent from a corner outfielder. Where's his plaque in Cooperstown!?

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Originally Posted by 200tang

Actually, his UZR paints the picture he's a good defender, but you know..

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So we're in agreement. Sabermetricians can no longer say Frenchy is a bad defender.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

I had no idea a .271 career average hitter with 88 HR in six seasons was very good hitting. I am shocked.

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It's about the timeliness of his hits