Wes Welker

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Originally Posted by ragecage

I dont know about that. You can say the same thing for Seattle and Pittsburgh Super Bowl, but its just poor officiating, not some sort of elaborate scheme.

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Thats the first thing I thought of when replying lol.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

I dont know about that. You can say the same thing for Seattle and Pittsburgh Super Bowl, but its just poor officiating, not some sort of elaborate scheme.

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Thats just one game. It's not a pattern.

2 games over the course of 3 seasons isn't exactly a pattern either. I don't see a blatant NE bias when I watch NE games. I've seen some poorly officiated games, but I see those all the time.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

2 games over the course of 3 seasons isn't exactly a pattern either. I don't see a blatant NE bias when I watch NE games. I've seen some poorly officiated games, but I see those all the time.

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It's more than two games. Tuck rule anyone...I think the majority of fans know it, at least the ones I talk to know it. I know this isn't first time Rage or anyone else on here has heard of it, either. Of course it has always existed in sports weather it be Jordan being able to push off or Michael Irvin, or Brady. So maybe you could say that NE or even more specifically Brady has earned the benefit of the doubt. Whatever it is the refs in the past (especially in the 16-0 season) have favored NE.

The majority of fans "believe it" but that doesn't make it so. There is a nation wide bias against the New England Patriots. Fans can't stand the organization for whatever reason. So, this, imo, is a conspiracy theory. And one with very little hard evidence.

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Originally Posted by MichelleWie

It's more than two games. Tuck rule anyone...I think the majority of fans know it, at least the ones I talk to know it. I know this isn't first time Rage or anyone else on here has heard of it, either. Of course it has always existed in sports weather it be Jordan being able to push off or Michael Irvin, or Brady. So maybe you could say that NE or even more specifically Brady has earned the benefit of the doubt. Whatever it is the refs in the past (especially in the 16-0 season) have favored NE.

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Fans dont account for hard evidence. If there was any truth to what you are saying, there would be no way the NFL can keep that under raps with all the sources available. Players especially would have said something if that were the case.

I start this thread the same week that Welker suffers a career-threatening injury. Perhaps we should call this 'THE DRESLOUGH CURSE'. Hmm.

Who should I injure next?

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Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough

I start this thread the same week that Welker suffers a career-threatening injury. Perhaps we should call this 'THE DRESLOUGH CURSE'. Hmm.

Who should I injure next?

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Peyton Manning. :p

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Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough

I start this thread the same week that Welker suffers a career-threatening injury. Perhaps we should call this 'THE DRESLOUGH CURSE'. Hmm.

Who should I injure next?

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Bill B...........rhymes with ill a check.

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

Bill B...........rhymes with ill a check.

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Subtle:p

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Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough

I start this thread the same week that Welker suffers a career-threatening injury. Perhaps we should call this 'THE DRESLOUGH CURSE'. Hmm.

Who should I injure next?

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Bruce Arians

please, by God, please

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Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough

I start this thread the same week that Welker suffers a career-threatening injury. Perhaps we should call this 'THE DRESLOUGH CURSE'. Hmm.

Who should I injure next?

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I'd say Gilbert Arenas.. but if you tried that he'd probably pull a gun on you ...

Peyton Manning, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Tom Brady, Jay Cutler, take your pick.

Can you do coaches too?

Also,

the entire Ravens team.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough

I start this thread the same week that Welker suffers a career-threatening injury. Perhaps we should call this 'THE DRESLOUGH CURSE'. Hmm.

Who should I injure next?

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ok 1st...
the entire Bengals d... better yet teh whole team
Then the Pats entire team and coach

then after next week... the saints AND indy
then injure anyone who will give me tickets to the Jets HOSTING the Ravens (oh yea then the ravens team)

oh and the entire NFC so the jets can win the Super bowl cause thats what its gonna take..

i will get back to you in 3 months about baseball teams :D

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

ok 1st...
the entire Bengals d... better yet teh whole team

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This. Bengals do not deserve to be relevant!:(

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Fans dont account for hard evidence. If there was any truth to what you are saying, there would be no way the NFL can keep that under raps with all the sources available. Players especially would have said something if that were the case.

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Players won't say it publicly(fines).A lot of Ex- players have commented on it. NFL Commentators have said it. Jimmie Johnson has said it. Michael Strahan even made a speech about it on the fox pregame show. Just google it see all the blogs, newspaper articles, commentary, etc,etc. The NFL has even changed the rules just because Brady got hurt( Carson Palmer and countless other QB's weren't important enough when they got hurt the same way) . It's not under wraps everyone knows about it. Like I said its been happening in every major sport forever. Are you going to deny that MJ didn't get alot more leeway than say Brad Lohaus?? Of course he did he was MJ. Everybody knew that. Jordan was going to get the calls. Do you think any ref would dare call the push-off after Jordan hit the game winner in game 6?? It's the same thing with Brady. I'll give him that has earned it, but please don't tell me it doesn't exist.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MichelleWie

Players won't say it (fines).A lot of Ex- players have commented on it. NFL Commentators have said it. Jimmie Johnson has said it. Michael Strahan even made a speech about it on the fox pregame show. Just google it see all the blogs, newspaper articles, commentary, etc,etc. The NFL has even changed the rules just because Brady got hurt( Carson Palmer and countless other QB's weren't important enough when they got hurt the same way) . It's not under wraps everyone knows about it. Like I said its been happening in every major sport forever. Are you going to deny that MJ didn't get alot more leeway than say Brad Lohaus?? Of course he did he was MJ. Everybody knew that. Jordan was going to get the calls. Do you think any ref would dare call the push-off after Jordan hit the game winner in game 6?? It's the same thing with Brady. I'll give him that has earned it, but please don't tell me it doesn't exist.:rolleyes:

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First, you need to distinguish between the league and individual referees. The league made a rule change that didn't benefit the Patriots more than anyone else. It was made after Brady was hurt, but it didn't actually help them.

And referees in all sports tend to give star players the benefit of the doubt. There are a few reasons for this, some good and some bad, but it isn't exactly proof of a conspiracy. I feel confident that the league isn't phoning up refs and asking them to make calls on behalf of the Patriots, and I am reasonably confident that the refs don't really care who wins.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

The majority of fans "believe it" but that doesn't make it so. There is a nation wide bias against the New England Patriots. Fans can't stand the organization for whatever reason. So, this, imo, is a conspiracy theory. And one with very little hard evidence.

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People dislike the organization because they win. It's that simple. Really their fans should take it as a compliment that people like me will cry on message boards and forums about NFL bias, while wishing our organization was as good.