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This deal makes every bit of sense for the Yankees....and I guess it makes sense for Atlanta, I feel like they could have found a better outfielder for Vazquez
I LOVE YOU BRIAN CASHMAN!!!!!!!!!!!! But on a serious note, now the OF looks like CF- Grand LF- Gardner and RF- Swish. They could probably now, re-sign Damon and put Gardner back on the bench for great pinch-running situations.
The yanks are so great their pinch runners are stars
Ya, they could probably stand to sign another corner outfielder, and I imagine they will.
Gardner is nothing like a star, but I always liked him on the bench and not playing full-time.
Jeffy, we dissected this to death earlier today. You are 6 hours late.
But ill quote myself, because i was so funny
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Also, without Cabrera to man left, the Yankees just signed Jason Bay and Matt Holliday to platoon there.
ya, i haven't been on a whole lot lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
well, theres this from FREE too
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Originally Posted by free2131
lol
Has anyone seen free since then?? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
that's his last post since then, but that was pretty funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
This seems like a great deal for New York, who seems to have unlimited payroll
God, I LOVE being a Yankees fan.
you were big on rooting for Darth Vader in the Star Wars saga too, eh?
Or the dealer at the casino.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloutwar
Yeah, it's so much fun rooting for the schoolyard bully as opposed to the underdog, isn't it? OTOH they do put their money back into their team, which is all a fan can ask for. What I'm asking for is the abolition of divisions so that other teams would have to face the Beasts of the East as much as we do, but I am not deluded enough to believe that I'll get anywhere with that one. Money alone does not guarantee championships. Money + Brains in the Front Office = F**king Juggernaut. I think unfortunately for the fans of the other 29 teams in MLB, we better get used to seeing more of this ghastly image:
A$$hole Wren
That's why I would never make a trade with the Yankees. You will never get the player value back because they can afford to hoover up the contract regardless of how large it may be.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
Or Osama Bin Laden.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
I would like four divisions in each league, with 4 teams in each league.....Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
32 teams all together, winner from each division plays in the playoffs....no more wild card.
Then in the East you wouldn't have to deal with Tampa Bay at least any more. Just New York, Boston, and Baltimore.
:D
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Originally Posted by Jeffy25
i prefer how it used to be, with a playoff twist. one AL division, and one NL division. No interleague...each team plays each other the same amount of times. Seed the top four teams in each of the two division, have your playoffs (all 7 game series) and may the best team win.
oh...and back on track...superb deal for the yuckees.
Ah, OK there's the big grin...Um no. That would really suck. It would guarantee a high draft position, from which we could allow the high upside prospects with huge bonus demands to slide on by to...the Yankees and Sawx. :( Oh, what fun! This above all else has to be dealt with in the 2011 CBA. Otherwise, why bother with the draft? We're right back to where things were in 1964, when the owners decided the draft might just be a good idea in order to create, you know, some semblance of balance. Hey, it took 46 years to totally unravel and for teams to find loopholes large enough to drive ragecage's truck through, but now something's got to be done. I am dead set against a salary cap, but a cap on players who haven't thrown a pitch or swung a bat in pro ball? Yeah, I'm down with that. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Ah, still my beating heart oh voice of sanity. Is this the first time you and I have agreed on something? Whether it is or not, Merry Christmas. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dickay
Does this apply to international & domestic prospects? Either way, I'm against a cap on amateurs. They deserve market value regardless of experience, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
agreed..Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
and nice joke on the rage front there
If they've played professional baseball wherever they're coming from I would say they deserve market value because they've obviously proven themselves to be capable of playing professionally, but I'd put a cap on the 16 year old foreign signings, as well as high schoolers and college kids. It'd still be a s**t-tonne of money for a kid that age.Quote:
Originally Posted by 200tang
I think caps on draft kids. The draft has been harmed more than improved by giving bonus' to these kids. Just like how players earn league min salaries until arbitration, the bonus's should be the same based on draft position, to allow these smaller market teams a chance to build up and not worrying about over paying for a top pick who may or may not ever pan out.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
If the kids work hard, and eventually make it to the show, than they will make some good money. No need for an overall salary cap if you do something like this.
Go Darth Vader
Echo everyone else. Big win for the Yankees
I have a hard time believing the Braves couldn't get more than this for Vazquez.......did they really need a CF that bad?? The SP prospect is nice, but he's also pretty far away....
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Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Word up to this, just add in the gangly 16 year olds or those from outside the US who have not played pro ball at any level, and I'll go all in for this and then we can keep idiotic salary caps on MLB payrolls out of the game. Let Scott Boras pull his negotiation stunts and print up his 300 page novels extolling the virtues of players who have actually done something. :D
and let's have an international draft! haha, if we are still making wishes.
I'm against draft caps. There isn't one draft or international salary (Japanese imports excepted) that isn't capable of being paid by every single team. The Royals just spent $6 million on Jason Kendall. $6 million is the upper reaches of most amateur contracts. The year the Pirates spent $10 million and Rajai Davis on Matt Morris, they took Daniel Moskos over Matt Wieters because of signability - and Wieters signed for less than $10 million. It's not the contracts that prevent small market teams from signing top amateurs. It's their own stupidity. A draft budget - this is for the WHOLE draft - doesn't normally need to be more than $10-15 million. Every team has that and if they don't, they need to wise up and stop spending that on over the hill veterans.
It's not even like the big market teams have the international market cornered or are the only teams signing big ticket amateur draftees. The largest international amateur contract so far? Michael Ynoa with the A's. The largest amateur draft contract? Stephen Strasburg with the Nationals.
For most of the kids in the draft, it's their ONLY chance to get paid their market value, as most will never reach the majors, let alone 6 years of service time. An amateur draft cap, just like a salary cap, is just another way of artificially controlling the costs of players (ie. keeping money in the pockets of the owners).
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for javier seriously?
another bad deal for ny. Cashman is an IDIOT!!!!!
Every move this off season for the Yankees has been TRASH! Besides Nick Johnson and letting Matsui go
how is this a bad deal for the Yankees?Quote:
Originally Posted by jpz17
Wtf?Quote:
Originally Posted by jpz17
He loves melky and austin jackson and is mad to see them go, even though the team is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
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Originally Posted by ewing6
Javier isn't going to do well in New York. In Joe's book he said he never thought Javier could handle a big market. But seriously guys.. this isn't about the Yankees getting worse. This is about some of Yankee player's best friend being dealt away. Robinson Cano practically lives with Cabrera. I see his performance being effected by this trade.
Face it.. Melky gets NY.. NY gets Melky.
It just fit well
Forgive me for thinking professional baseball players aren't suddenly going to wet the bed because their friend is no longer on the same team.
And I hope it's not about the Yankees getting worse...because there's no universe in which trading a fourth outfielder for a strong pitcher makes a team worse. Even if Vazquez is league average for 200 innings (which is what he was last time he was in New York...totally can't handle New York..), that's still more valuable than a fourth outfielder.