First player from Alabama, third sophomore in a row
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First player from Alabama, third sophomore in a row
Im not unhappy with that.. Ingram had a great season against some good defesnses I wouldn't have picked him, but he was deserving of it. .
Closest vote ever .... Ill be interested to see the detailed breakdown ...
All of the top 3 deserved it.
No reason McCoy finishes in front of Suh
ya, McCoy and Gerhart (sp?) were as close to Ingram as Lincecum, Wainwright, and Carpenter were in the NL Cy YoungQuote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
meh, I would have been unhappy if Mccoy had gotten it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
... More importantly .. 30for30 ... "The U"
Toby won the Heisman in my heart
Yep, Suh made McCoy look like a ragdoll. Suh>McCoyQuote:
Originally Posted by rockiesfan4ever
This The U is awesome so far.
Suh destroyed offensive lines this year.
Ingram was very good but didn't destroy defenses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzN7sWYdprUQuote:
Originally Posted by President
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYc0fAN2C_4&NR=1 <--- My favorite is the one about 1 minute in
To give you perspective here are the total stats from Alabama's, Texas', and Florida's ENTIRE DL'S for this past season with Suh's season stats listed last:
Alabama Season Totals
98tkl - 23.5tfl - 9.5sk - 20qbh - 5pbu - 0int - 1ff - 3bk
Florida Season Totals
112tkl - 33tfl - 14sk - 48qbh - 5pbu - 0int - 1ff - 0bk
Texas Season Totals
116tkl - 25.5tfl - 15.5sk - 10qbh - 7pbu - 0int - 2ff - 0bk
Suh Season Totals
82tkl - 23tfl - 12sk - 24qbh - 10pbu - 1int - 1ff - 3bk
As you can see Suh's stats, by themselves compare favorably with those 3 teams ENTIRE D Lines
it seems like the Heisman is becoming more of a QB award with RB's getting it when the QB's don't. I thought it was supposed to be for the "best" player in college football - someone who makes you say "wow...that's a football player" . I'm glad Tebow or McCoy didn't get it but if i had a vote my order would've been 1. Suh 2. Gerhart 3. Ingram
What a beastQuote:
Originally Posted by LilBates
And seriously if Nebraska had any sort of offense. Texas would have a loss. Suh treated Mr everything McCoy like his own personal rag doll.Quote:
Originally Posted by LilBates
Any NFL GM would be retarded to not draft Suh #1 overall. Im looking in your direction Rams.
They'll draft a QB, Jimmy ClausenQuote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Though Suh will be a beast. Only in my dreams I can imagine that the Steelers draft him
Well then Tampa Bay will reep the reward as they have a QB of the future in Josh Freeman. Cleveland and Detroit may have a shot too depending how the season plays out.Quote:
Originally Posted by President
You take the best player when you have the first pick, not fill a need IMO, you fill needs later in the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by President
I would be taking the best overall player.
That would be way too high for Clausen, who still makes bad decisions and off the field still gets involved in way too much extra activities.Quote:
Originally Posted by President
My philosophy as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Well with the first pick...at times it's the best overall player you are able to sign. lol
Ohh wait. It's a uncapped year. Let the money fly.
If you have a top 5 pick, you take the best player out there and then build around that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
It's not like having the first pick in the second round can't give you a decent quarter back still, or that you can't sign one. I dunno, I just think if you see an Alex Rodriguez in the draft and you have the first pick, you don't take a Catcher just because that is where you are weakest.
of in the correlation of basketball instead of baseball (because of the minor leagues and impact on a professional level more quickly) it's like passing on Lebron because you need a Center.
Also getting a Suh might help break open Chris Long. A very young D-Line could be a start of something special.Quote:
Originally Posted by reflections
I've seen Clausen as the first overall pick in many mock drafts. Either he or Jake Locker are at the top, though most of the mock drafts I see have Cleveland picking first. Besides, Clausen has a strong arm and is number 1/2 QB in the draft.
Nevertheless, the Rams will draft a QB because they have no one there. Bulger who? Null who? They already drafted two of the most vital roles in football in a defensive end and a tackle, so they'll probably get the third role and draft a QB.
Suh's a beast, and will hopefully land in Tampa. Or drop all the way to the Steelers :). Cleveland probably won't draft Suh because Cleveland sucks at drafting and will probably pick a QB because Mangini hates Quinn for some reason. The Lions need a tackle to protect Stafford, so they will probably draft Okung, and besides, I doubt they will be able to land Suh with the Bucs ahead of them.
Also, the Jags will draft Tebow because that would probably keep them in Jacksonville with a local star who can sell tickets. Plus it would be totally awesome.
Hmmmm. Just heard McShay say today he thinks Clausen slips to the second round. And that Bradford is the #1 QB in the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by President
Of course none of it really matters till after the combines and personal workouts. Kiper does have Clausen as the number one QB on his "big board" but doesn't have his mock draft out yet.
But like I said, mock drafts basically mean nothing right now. It would obviously also depend on who picks first. Detroit would obviously not pick Clausen and I doubt Tampa Bay would but Cleveland and St Louis seem to be the winners of the "Give me the number one pick".
Guess it would just matter if they think Clausen is a franchise quarterback. Mangini might pull the trigger (although never knew him to be a offensive genius) and stick with him like the Jets and Sanchez..
Ahhhh...my favorite time of year. lol
If McShay believes Bradford is the number one QB after having a weaker arm than Clausen and having season ending surgery...that's kind of odd.
Well I'd love to show you..but i'm not joining up on insider.espn.Quote:
Originally Posted by President
I saw it this morning on sportscenter. here is what i could find.
it shows Bradford going to the Skins at number 7.
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...ys-draft-board
and found this tidbit about Clausen
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...s-draft-status
Dont forget, Tampa only has one win this year. ;) It may come down to them and St. Louis for #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by reflections
Man, what happened to the greatest show on turf?Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
This guy named Bulger, aka the "successor", happenedQuote:
Originally Posted by reflections
By the way, Clausen's stock doesn't drop because of one game. Bradford hasn't played a full season this year. Tebow's stock was never that high. Jake Locker is the only QB that might compete with Clausen, but I don't see Locker as the first QB off the board.
I can see the Skins taking Bradford, because Snyder wants a big name to draft, and Bradford's a big name.
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Originally Posted by President
It's all just talk right now. I mean who really thought Flacco would of gone so high.
Locker said he was coming back for his senior year.
Clausen just seems to have some character issues that won't be solved anytime soon. Every off season it was something else going on with him outside of football. And not something good.
Tebow is a funny thing. What is gonna happen with him? I'm interested to see if he is willing to do whatever it takes to make a team or if he is gonna be Eric Crouch.
I don't see Bradford as a NFL QB, but you never know (although you pretty much do. lol)