Lincecum's Arbitration Number: $23 Million Plus?
Interesting article on MLBTR:
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Yahoo's Tim Brown penned a column today about
Tim Lincecum's likely record-setting arbitration case that included this tidbit from an unnamed baseball executive. Lincecum's agents and the MLB Players' Union had discussed the possibility of submitting an arbitration figure of $23MM plus one dollar for the back-to-back Cy Young Award winner. Why the extra dollar? So Lincecum would be making 100 cents more than the highest-paid pitcher in baseball, C.C. Sabathia. The symbolic number would reflect Lincecum's unprecedented success this early in his career.
As Brown notes, Lincecum and his team would almost certainly lose their case by posting such a high number. Since the Giants' bid, however, is almost obligated to be in the eight-figure range, it seems guaranteed that Lincecum's final 2010 salary will exceed the record $10MM arbitration award given to Ryan Howard following his MVP season in 2007.
This could be all moot, of course, if the Giants don't let Lincecum get to arbitration in the first place. It was previously reported that Lincecum was open to a contract extension in San Francisco, for an amount that would likely top Zach Greinke's four-year/$38MM deal with the Royals. Brown speculates that a Lincecum extension could be closer to the three-year/$54 million contract that Howard signed with Philadelphia last February.
One almost hopes that Lincecum and the Giants don't come to terms so we can see, in the words of MLBTR's Mike Axisa, "the most awesome first year arbitration case in history."
Who can argue that he wouldn't deserve it? I have to agree that MLB is probably pushing the Giants to hurry and do an extension, ASAP.
What would be a fair contract? 3 yr./ $54 MM? I would say that he might could get close to $15 MM through arbitration, and if he has another season like the last two in 2010, would we be seeing a $30 MM arbitration number?
If I'm the Giants, I offer 4 yr./ $80 MM, and hope he doesn't want to ge year to year.
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yikes!
give him a 6 year deal/106
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I personally wouldn't want to go more than 5 years to a pitcher, but that's just me.
I think he would turn down any extension of more than 4 years, as he would want to maximize his income. Just my opinion on that, though.
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Jeffy25
yikes!
give him a 6 year deal/106
13-15-17-19-20-22
I don't even think that would be enough. It would probably need to be like 6/130.
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200tang
I don't even think that would be enough. It would probably need to be like 6/130.
If he wanted that much, i would probably go 4 or 5 years then....but ya...you are probably right.
maybe we go 5/100 then
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Such a frail body, it has to break down at some point. I would be scared giving a long term deal.
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personally, i wouldn't be.
I think he has the frame, and mechanics to last until he is at least 30 before he slows down.
I hope he doesn't follow the likes of J.R. Richard, Dwight Gooden etc.
Big risk, but it's still better than the deal you are giving to Zito ;)
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doc didn't rellay have injury problems he had drug problems
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That could be a lot of weed, with 23-mil
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Jeffy25
personally, i wouldn't be.
I think he has the frame, and mechanics to last until he is at least 30 before he slows down.
I hope he doesn't follow the likes of J.R. Richard, Dwight Gooden etc.
Big risk, but it's still better than the deal you are giving to Zito ;)
Well heck ya it is, im not that stupid. How Sabean still has a job is beyond my comprehension.
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this is true, but i'm pretty sure it wasn't pot for Doc, but it could be for Lince ;)
Coke anyone?
I hear Michael Irving is available
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ragecage
Such a frail body, it has to break down at some point. I would be scared giving a long term deal.
I agree. Historically speaking smaller bodies generally break down much quicker than bigger more physical pitchers. Lincecum could very well be an outlier, but it's something to consider. As for the contract though, the break down generally doesn't happen until the 30's, so the Giants shouldn't be afraid of giving him a deal until his early 30's.
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ragecage
Well heck ya it is, im not that stupid. How Sabean still has a job is beyond my comprehension.
There was an article on mlbtraderumors the other day where they looked back on it and a new york reporter bashed the mets for not signing him:D
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i bet that reporter is sooo smart!
it's easy to yell at executives 3 years later.
the whole league could have had albert
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200tang
I agree. Historically speaking smaller bodies generally break down much quicker than bigger more physical pitchers. Lincecum could very well be an outlier, but it's something to consider. As for the contract though, the break down generally doesn't happen until the 30's, so the Giants shouldn't be afraid of giving him a deal until his early 30's.
Yeah the reason I say it is because of Tim Hudson, who has a similar small frame. During their 20's the Giants should surely lock him up until his early 30's.
