Lots of teams passed on Lincecum b/c they feared he was a career-ending arm injury waiting to happen.
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Lots of teams passed on Lincecum b/c they feared he was a career-ending arm injury waiting to happen.
ya, his mechanics don't add up to stardom.
I guess I am more glad to not see Red Sox listed in that top 10, unless they were number 10.
And Mike Piazza was taken in the 62nd round (or something like that) by his brother's godfather's (Tommy Lasorda) team as a favour to his father. Who knew?
EDIT: I guess that's the ultimate role model/revenge for anyone who was ever picked last in neighbourhood or schoolyard pick-up games.
This isn't really true. His mechanics are just unique so teams are afraid. They've never seen anything like it before. There's nothing in his mechanics inherently that scared teams off and made them think he was an injury risk. It was just that it looked weird and nobody knew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Personally, I think his mechanics are a large part of his success and a significant factor in his health.
Well, here's the entire first round and compensation picks, to see who passed on who, as well as comparing progress between players the teams drafted.
1) Luke Hochevar (Royals)
2) Greg Reynolds (Rockies)
3) Evan Longoria (Rays)
4) Brad Lincoln (Pirates)
5) Brandon Morrow (Mariners)
6) Andrew Miller (Tigers)
7) Clayton Kershaw (Dodgers)
8) Drew Stubbs (Reds)
9) Bill Rowell (Orioles)
10) Tim Lincecum (Giants)
11) Max Scherzer (Diamondbacks)
12) Kasey Kiker (Rangers)
13) Tyler Colvin (Cubs)
14) Travis Snider (Blue Jays)
15) Chris Marrero (Nationals)
16) Jeremy Jeffress (Brewers)
17) Matt Antonelli (Padres)
18) Kyle Drabek (Phillies; compensation pick for Mets signing Billy Wagner)
19) Brett Sinkbeil (Marlins)
20) Chris Parmelee (Twins)
21) Ian Kennedy (Yankees; compensation pick for Phillies signing Tom Gordon)
22) Colton Willems (Nationals; compension pick for A's signing Esteban Loaiza)
23) Maxwell Sapp (Astros)
24) Cody Johnson (Braves)
25) Hank Conger (Angels; compensation pick for Indians signing Paul Byrd)
26) Bryan Morris (Dodgers; compensation pick for Angels signing Jeff Weaver)
27) Jason Place (Red Sox)
28) Daniel Bard (Red Sox; compensation pick for Yankees signing Johnny Damon)
29) Kyle McCulloch (White Sox)
30) Adam Ottavino (Cardinals)
What's not to love about his mechanics? His legs drive everything. Apparently Prior didn't use his legs enough, so his arm got overworked and look where he is now. He should've used those circus freak calves and quads more and maybe he would've survived. Of course, there's always the Dusty Baker factor to consider in his break-down. Sad, because he looked like something special coming out of USC. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
At the time, his mechanics were not loved. They are now.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
i could be wrong on this, but i thought as a prospect, people thought his size and mechanics might be an issue.
I will teach my son to throw like lincey
As HGM pointed out to me earlier this week, the Gold Gloves are still in the hands of the coaches, the managers and I think the players so that mess is on them, not the writers. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by yamiviet
Yes, teams thought that, because they never saw anything like it before. Scared of the unknown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Just the coaches and managers :)Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
I always like to look back at drafts.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
i do it a lot.
Yes, I knew you'd be along to correct me and that's why I said I think the players. ;) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Personally, I find that to be an exercise in self-flagellation and most people come to conclusions about players way to soon. I see it in comments sections everywhere. "Stupid GM X, should've taken player Y". Around here the hue and cry was "Why did J.P. take Ricky Romero ahead of Troy Tulowitzki." When Romero started off with a bang this year and Tulo was coming off a horrible 2008 and looked to be just as bad at the start of this year, it was "Troy who?". By the end of the year it was back to "Stupid J.P." Don't get me wrong I would much rather have Tulo, but it just shows to go you the insanity of fandom. We're still only 4 years removed from the Tulo/Romero draft. Patience grasshoppers. The results will be in in due time. To conclude anything about the 2006 draft (Reynolds/Lincecum/Snider etc) before 2011 isn't really fair to the late bloomers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
Oh, i don't look at it like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
I just like to see the steals, i like to see how players have progressed through their careers.
You see first round players who were great specs, and are out of baseball having never played in the big leagues ever....and then you see guys like Pujols.
I just like to see it. obviously gm's didn't know how players will turn out when the drafts are made.
How many first overall picks have had valuable careers?
A rod and griffey and a small number of others?
It's just fun to watch.