NL Cy Young Winner is...................

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

But Carpenter has the better rate stats is my argument.

ERA, ERA plus, Dice.

the only thing he didn't do better then lincecum is the strike outs, and that is because Carp is more of a sinker baller ground out pitcher...he gets strike outs, but that isn't how he pitches.

there is obviously a huge value for being a big strike out guy. That is a big value obviously, but in terms of rate stats, carpenter edges out everyone.

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Carpenter very slightly edges out Lincecum in ERA/ERA+. It's close enough for 30 innings to slide Lincecum ahead.

My 2009 NL CY Youngs
1. Adam W
2. Chris C
3. Tim L

That is right.. third. I feel that this is the worst voting I've ever seen for an award. Tim did not deserve this at all. It is all of fashion show now

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Originally Posted by jpz17

My 2009 NL CY Youngs
1. Adam W
2. Chris C
3. Tim L

That is right.. third. I feel that this is the worst voting I've ever seen for an award. Tim did not deserve this at all. It is all of fashion show now

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This has to be sarcasm... Disagree with it, fine, but the worst voting ever? That can't be serious. Lincecum had an outstanding year...hell, he was better than he was last year when he also deservedly won the Cy Young.

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Originally Posted by jpz17

My 2009 NL CY Youngs
1. Adam W
2. Chris C
3. Tim L

That is right.. third. I feel that this is the worst voting I've ever seen for an award. Tim did not deserve this at all. It is all of fashion show now

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I declare you the dumbest poster in the entire history of the internet. Nay, the dumbest person to ever put forth an opinion in the history of civilization.



Taking every opinion to the super-extreme is fun!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

And metsguy...your troll attempt...fail.

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Chalk another one up on the "Metsguy can't voice any of his opinions without being accused of trolling" board

Also, as Jeffy, RSF, eggson, or RSR can attest, I posted a status saying that it was a poor choice by the writers earlier today. When I'm actually trolling, I don't post the same thing on Facebook.

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Originally Posted by jpz17

my 2009 nl cy youngs
1. Adam w
2. Chris c
3. Tim l

that is right.. Third. I feel that this is the worst voting i've ever seen for an award. Tim did not deserve this at all. It is all of fashion show now

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+1

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Chalk another one up on the "Metsguy can't voice any of his opinions without being accused of trolling" board

Also, as Jeffy, RSF, eggson, or RSR can attest, I posted a status saying that it was a poor choice by the writers earlier today. When I'm actually trolling, I don't post the same thing on Facebook.

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Please explain how it was a "poor choice." And furthermore, since:

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

+1

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Please explain how it was the worst award voting ever.

Remember - disagreeing with it doesn't make it poor and it doesn't make it the worst ever.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

+1

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I've seen a picture of you. You are without a doubt the ugliest person in the history of mankind. I mean...I don't find you attractive, therefore I must take my opinion all the way to the opposite extreme.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Cy Young pick fail.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Chalk another one up on the "Metsguy can't voice any of his opinions without being accused of trolling" board

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It's more along the lines of "Metsguy is incapable of providing anything useful in the NL Cy Young Award debate so he just calls it a Cy Young pick fail".

If you were able to defend your pick with some actual statistics or valid reasoning behind why you felt it to be a fail, that might be different.

But you can't. :p

I simply wish one of my guys had won....but lince earned the victory just like carp or waino could have won it and it would still have been earned.

they basically split the first place votes, and look how close it was. Any one of them could have won, as a cards fan, i wish it was one of my guys, but oh well.

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I simply wish one of my guys had won....but lince earned the victory just like carp or waino could have won it and it would still have been earned.

they basically split the first place votes, and look how close it was. Any one of them could have won, as a cards fan, i wish it was one of my guys, but oh well.

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Next time tell one of them to suck so they don't end up splitting their votes (even though I'm sure some would have went to Lincecum). :p

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

I simply wish one of my guys had won....but lince earned the victory just like carp or waino could have won it and it would still have been earned.

they basically split the first place votes, and look how close it was. Any one of them could have won, as a cards fan, i wish it was one of my guys, but oh well.

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Exactly. There were three absolutely legitimate picks, all of whom were deserving. I would've disagreed with it if Carp or Wainwright won, but they're valid picks, and it certainly wouldn't have been the worst award decision ever. People need to chill with the hyperbole.

Glad to see Vazquez get some love for his great season. I also was glad that Wainwright didn't win, because it would have hurt too much! ;)

haha.


what's interesting about wainwright, is when you look at his breakdown per inning.

the leadoff guy gets on a lot on him. he is great from the stretch.

opposing leadoff hitters batted over 300 off waino. but then he will lock it down. The more guys on base, the better he did. with the bases loaded....opposing hitters batted .067.

He makes adjustments inning by inning. He is great on the fly. It's just interesting to see. Now if only we hadn't traded haren for mulder, our rotation would be boss.

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

Chalk another one up on the "Metsguy can't voice any of his opinions without being accused of trolling" board.

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metsguy is completely free to voice his opinions. I am free to accuse him of trolling when he doesn't back them up with facts. Quit puking up the word "fail" like a cat hacks up furballs and gather evidence to support your opinion, or be subject to ridicule and disrespect by those that bother to check their facts. ;)