2009 MLB Draft Signee Thread

ZOMG, BORAS RUINED ANOTHER DRAFT!!!! HE JUST WANTED TO GET HIS MONEY AND DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE PLAYERS!!!

/sarcasm.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Well it happens every single offseason on the free agent market and in-season.

I think it's more stupid to spend $10 mil. on an aging veteran when you're in last place than it is to spend $15 mil. on a guy that dominated college like no other and has the scouting to back it up. Way more money is wasted on veterans than on amateurs.

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Oh I dont disagree on tha tpoint... I just think it would be better spent on CURRENT talent... if ur not wasting it on aging vets and young unprovens... you can keep a guy like carl crawford, josh becket, Holliday, etc

Srasburg just signed

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Everybody knew that that $50 million was never going to happen, including Boras.

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Originally Posted by 200tang

Uh..it was obviously just to get his player more money? You know..like everyone has said for the past 3-4 months..

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it was a joke guys relax

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

Oh I dont disagree on tha tpoint... I just think it would be better spent on CURRENT talent... if ur not wasting it on aging vets and young unprovens... you can keep a guy like carl crawford, josh becket, Holliday, etc

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Well you're never going to get more of those guys without spending money on them when they're young.

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Originally Posted by bucher34

Srasburg just signed

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:p where ya been?
i reported it like 5 minutes ago... hello.... dont you wait on our every word :p

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Well you're never going to get more of those guys without spending money on them when they're young.

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I could be wrong BUT i think you would be more likely to if ther was some type of slotting system

So how long before we see Ackley or Strasburg in the bigs.

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

Oh I dont disagree on tha tpoint... I just think it would be better spent on CURRENT talent... if ur not wasting it on aging vets and young unprovens... you can keep a guy like carl crawford, josh becket, Holliday, etc

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Or you can pay for current talent and get guys like Barry Zito/Vernon Wells/etc..

Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever pay based on what they did EVER. If a guy is declining it's stupid to pay him for what he's DONE rather than what you expect him TO DO. Just this last off-season K-Rod was signed despite declining K rates & violent delivery and JJ Putz was traded despite lack of velocity and injury problems. Look how both of those have turned out (K-Rod has been pretty good, but I'm sure they were expecting more).

Point is, Young players will be under control for 6 years and are only going to get better. FAs aren't under control for 6 years and only get worse (This is speaking generally of course).

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

I could be wrong BUT i think you would be more likely to if ther was some type of slotting system

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Possibly, sure, but that's harmful to the player's bottom line. You need to balance both the teams and the players needs and wants, and an open negotiation is the best way to do that.

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Originally Posted by 200tang

Or you can pay for current talent and get guys like Barry Zito/Vernon Wells/etc..

Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever pay based on what they did EVER. If a guy is declining it's stupid to pay him for what he's DONE rather than what you expect him TO DO. Just this last off-season K-Rod was signed despite declining K rates & violent delivery and JJ Putz was traded despite lack of velocity and injury problems. Look how both of those have turned out (K-Rod has been pretty good, but I'm sure they were expecting more).

Point is, Young players will be under control for 6 years and are only going to get better. FAs aren't under control for 6 years and only get worse (This is speaking generally of course).

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Exactly. Whenever you sign a player, free agent or amateur, you're paying him for what you EXPECT HIM TO DO IN THE FUTURE. Thus, if you pay him based on what's he done, you're making a giant mistake. Rather, you need to use what's he done to make an educated projection on what you expect him to do in the future and pay him based on THAT.

how does Strasburg's four year deal actually work out? arby years etc......how does a four year deal work with him?

It's weird to know the Nats are complaining about the Strasburg money and are perfectly fine with paying Adam Dunn more, for 2 years less and no realistic chance of making the playoffs while he's here.

GREAT USE OF MONEY!

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Originally Posted by 200tang

It's weird to know the Nats are complaining about the Strasburg money and are perfectly fine with paying Adam Dunn more, for 2 years less and no realistic chance of making the playoffs while he's here.

GREAT USE OF MONEY!

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I was just thinking about that...haha.

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Originally Posted by Jeffy25

how does Strasburg's four year deal actually work out? arby years etc......how does a four year deal work with him?

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I believe it works the same as David Price. In the final 2 years he goes to regular arb.

[Edit : I believe the deal also means if he starts in the minors in a year he uses up one of his three options]

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Originally Posted by asianinvasion

So how long before we see Ackley or Strasburg in the bigs.

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FWIW, Strasburg is on the Nats 40-man roster right now, so probably this year for him.