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i've only seen highlights and can't draw "intent" from it but most every radio station personality from ESPN, YES, WFAN, WEEI all seem to agree it was intentional by Porcello??
I do agree with the assessment that Porcello should have drifted towards his bench. The comment regarding "who thinks about that when being charged" is misguided IMO. I think its a natural reaction to move towards your safety net when being charged.
Where was the 1B? One interesting assessment by ESPN & WEEI showed that the 3B and SS were very quick to react (as if they suspected it might happen because they knew the pitcher was trying to hit Yuke) yet the 1B and catcher was slow. If he had drifted towards 3rd Inge would have intercepted him. They attributed the 1B being slow to him being a backup who take Cabreras place and maybe he missed a sign and they attributed the catcher to being a bonehead.
Again....i don't know if it was intentional but much of the sports broadcasting world apparently believes it was.
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dickay
i've only seen highlights and can't draw "intent" from it but most every radio station personality from ESPN, YES, WFAN, WEEI all seem to agree it was intentional by Porcello??
I do agree with the assessment that Porcello should have drifted towards his bench. The comment regarding "who thinks about that when being charged" is misguided IMO. I think its a natural reaction to move towards your safety net when being charged.
Where was the 1B? One interesting assessment by ESPN & WEEI showed that the 3B and SS were very quick to react (as if they suspected it might happen because they knew the pitcher was trying to hit Yuke) yet the 1B and catcher was slow. If he had drifted towards 3rd Inge would have intercepted him. They attributed the 1B being slow to him being a backup who take Cabreras place and maybe he missed a sign and they attributed the catcher to being a bonehead.
Again....i don't know if it was intentional but much of the sports broadcasting world apparently believes it was.
Why would Porcello seek help from his fielders when he showed that he could take care of himself? He actually threw Youkilis to the ground, and landed on top.
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Rongar
Why would Porcello seek help from his fielders when he showed that he could take care of himself? He actually threw Youkilis to the ground, and landed on top.
lets be honest about it...momentum had more to do with it than porcello and that same momemtum continued leaving yuke on top of porcello after the fall. this wasn't of the nolan ryan beating up ventura type moment.
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dickay
i've only seen highlights and can't draw "intent" from it but most every radio station personality from ESPN, YES, WFAN, WEEI all seem to agree it was intentional by Porcello??
I do agree with the assessment that Porcello should have drifted towards his bench. The comment regarding "who thinks about that when being charged" is misguided IMO. I think its a natural reaction to move towards your safety net when being charged.
Where was the 1B? One interesting assessment by ESPN & WEEI showed that the 3B and SS were very quick to react (as if they suspected it might happen because they knew the pitcher was trying to hit Yuke) yet the 1B and catcher was slow. If he had drifted towards 3rd Inge would have intercepted him. They attributed the 1B being slow to him being a backup who take Cabreras place and maybe he missed a sign and they attributed the catcher to being a bonehead.
Again....i don't know if it was intentional but much of the sports broadcasting world apparently believes it was.
Yeah, they missed the boat on this.
Porcello drifted to first mainly because Youkilis was more or less coming that way, and he was attempting to get into position to defend himself (as opposed to just running away). Keep in mind he's a 20 year old rookie, going towards the bench isn't necessarily going to be his first instinct because he's never been in that situation before. Given the way Youkilis got a face full of turf, I think Porcello took care of business quite well.
It was definitely not intentional. As soon as Youkilis started running, Porcello had his hands up like "WTF dude?!" Avila was slow to react behind the plate because it was not intentional, and he wasn't expecting anything like that. He was actually reaching to get another ball when Youkilis started running, so that gave him a few extra steps.
I don't know why 3B and SS reacted faster than 1B. Probably because Inge and Santiago are quick, and Raburn is not a usual 1B so he's not used to the situation. As far as ESPN/WEEI thinking it's intentional, well, excuse me for accusing them of being biased. I think Porcello's message pitch was the last inning high and tight on Martinez.
It's just total BS because Youkilis charged the mound to get Porcello ejected, and he did. Porcello wouldn't have gotten ejected if Youkilis hadn't charged the mound. I just hope Porcello doesn't get suspended for basically handling his business when Youkilis charged out there like a *****.
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dickay
lets be honest about it...momentum had more to do with it than porcello and that same momemtum continued leaving yuke on top of porcello after the fall. this wasn't of the nolan ryan beating up ventura type moment.
Porcello landed on top of Youkilis.
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haveacigar
Porcello landed on top of Youkilis.
yes, and then yuke rolled on top of porcello. it was mostly momentum involved in both accounts. nice clip which cuts off just as they land :rolleyes:
anyhow.....its weird how even WFAN hosts today are saying it was clearly intentional, i heard it on YES last night as well and so many in here think it wasn't. I'm not saying he was hit intionally...i don't know nor care, i'm just stating that its weird the differing opinions.
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Blame whoever made the clip. I didn't edit it.
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I hope Beckett hits someone tonight like Adam Everett so he can charge the mound and get Beckett ejected. Apparently, having some bald ******* attack you is now against MLB rules.
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haveacigar
I hope Beckett hits someone tonight like Adam Everett so he can charge the mound and get Beckett ejected. Apparently, having some bald ******* attack you is now against MLB rules.
i actually thought you had an unbiased opinion...until i saw your avatar. :rolleyes:
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dickay
i actually thought you had an unbiased opinion...until i saw your avatar. :rolleyes:
You didn't know I was a Tigers fan? :rolleyes:
Never said I was unbiased.
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haveacigar
You didn't know I was a Tigers fan? :rolleyes:
Never said I was unbiased.
yeah...i didn't know lol. oh well, i got the tiger fan viewpoint down now though. thx. :D
Re: Youkilis Charges the Mound.
From an A's fan perspective Dice, ESPN is full of crap. Dont read into it.
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Saw this last night, the guy did seem genuinely confused about why Youk was charging.
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dickay
lets be honest about it...momentum had more to do with it than porcello and that same momemtum continued leaving yuke on top of porcello after the fall. this wasn't of the nolan ryan beating up ventura type moment.
Exactly...the other guy's momemtum is the weapon you use against him in ju-jitsu...Porcello's hip-throw was a classic j-j move.Any J-J umpire would have awarded the encounter to the pitcher.
Here's a link for anyone interested in the art and discipline of ju-jitsu: http://www.google.com/search?q=jujit...A273CA273&aq=t
