Nats failure thread

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...ton_nationals/

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2010 ZiPS Projections - Washington Nationals
The good news? Strasburg and Storer are projected to be the best starter and reliever, respectively, on the Nats in 2010. The bad news? Two pitchers that have never pitched in the major leagues are projected to be the best starter and reliever.

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The Nats acquire Bruney and his $2 million

The Nats acquire Pudge Rodriguez, giving up a draft pick to the Rangers

They didn't give up a draft pick, the Rangers just get a supplemental pick.

But I agree, signing Pudge, bad idea for two years.

Why does Neyer say they gave up a draft pick?

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...th-bruney-deal

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Originally Posted by filihok

Yeah, they didn't look near as bad as the Train

http://masnsports.com/images/josh2.jpg


http://masnsports.com/images/hondo3.jpg

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I have seen other statues like this at various parks. Det, Cin and Chi I think

It would be nice if rather than appropriating the history of the Minnesota Twins organization (Walter Johnson), the Texas Rangers organization (Frank Howard), or possibly the greatest hitter in the history of the game (Josh Gibson) who played for the Homestead (Pennsylvania) Grays who adopted Washington, DC as their "home away from home" and played many of their games at Griffith Stadium, home of the Washington Senators, now known as the Minnesota Twins, they would celebrate their own history with statues of Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, and Gary Carter and the great farm system that produced greats such as the above three and Randy Johnson and Larry Walker among many other very good players. Of course it would probably be a really painful exercise to look back and realize that the organization was run a million times better in Montreal than it is currently being run in Washington, so they might not want to do that, but still it would be nice if they celebrated their own history rather than somebody else's.

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

It would be nice if rather than appropriating the history of the Minnesota Twins organization (Walter Johnson), the Texas Rangers organization (Frank Howard), or possibly the greatest hitter in the history of the game (Josh Gibson) who played for the Homestead (Pennsylvania) Grays who adopted Washington, DC as their "home away from home" and played many of their games at Griffith Stadium, home of the Washington Senators, now known as the Minnesota Twins, they would celebrate their own history with statues of Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, and Gary Carter and the great farm system that produced greats such as the above three and Randy Johnson and Larry Walker among many other very good players. Of course it would probably be a really painful exercise to look back and realize that the organization was run a million times better in Montreal than it is currently being run in Washington, so they might not want to do that, but still it would be nice if they celebrated their own history rather than somebody else's.

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Couldn't agree more with you AJ. I always compare the Nats organization with the Colorado Avalanche (ex Quebec Nordiques from the NHL) and can't believe that they took a path so different. The Nordiques left Quebec after the 1994-95 season but were always aware of the importance of keeping the team's history with them. The Avs even organized a pre-season game against the Montreal Canadiens in 2002 in Quebec city and players wore a Quebec Nordiques shirt for the occasion. Today, the Avs are still very popular in the province of Quebec.

On the contrary, it seems that the Nats organization has made every effort possible to try to dissociate itself from the Expos, like by changing almost everybody in their organization or by giving retired numbers to active players. They can't even recognize their only HOF member(G. Carter); I wonder why Dawson wanted to be intronized as a Cub...

Meanwhile, in Montreal, people are still publishing books about the Expos, because they can't identify themselves with the Washington Nationals or any other team. I think they call it living in the past...

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

statues of Tim Raines, Andre Dawson, and Gary Carter and the great farm system that produced greats such as the above three and Randy Johnson and Larry Walker .

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you have to be trolling here..... Do these players really deserve their own statues? I dont know about the ones that have statues ( I am not familiar with them), but IMHO these players you have mentioned do not.

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Originally Posted by CCamels73

you have to be trolling here..... Do these players really deserve their own statues? I dont know about the ones that have statues ( I am not familiar with them), but IMHO these players you have mentioned do not.

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Raines/Carter/Dawson were the top 3 players in Expos history.

Gary Carter maybe...

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Raines/Carter/Dawson were probably the top 3 players in Expos history.

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Pedro... Randy I think started with them

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

Pedro... Randy I think started with them

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I know. Randy pitched 11 games for them. Pedro was with them for four years and had one exceptional year before leaving. Dawson/Raines/Carter played their entire peaks in Montreal.

The true fail is that this thread only made it 3 pages in 8 months time

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

I know. Randy pitched 11 games for them. Pedro was with them for four years and had one exceptional year before leaving. Dawson/Raines/Carter played their entire peaks in Montreal.

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true

The Detroit statues incorporate motion, but they do a way better job. For example, Hal Newhouser has the proper amount of limbs.