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Hot buttons for PBP mode
I remember reading a request for this but searching only brought up a huge, 25-page thread stemming from a poll of desired features for BM2K8. So:
Since I started playing in one-pitch mode, my right index finger has become quite sore. I can't find a comfortable alternative to using that finger to click the mouse. Please, please, please add hot buttons for "Pitch" and "Hit" if nothing else. This is URGENT!
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Bump. It's very disappointing that several patches have been issued since I posted this. I've learned to turn the mouse sideways and click with my thumb but that's awkward and may simply transfer the problem. Multiple mouse clicks = repetitive stress injury, this ought to be well known to any porgrammer. What's weird is that hitting the space bar, the obvious choice for "do the next routine thing" instead equates to "finish the game". Does anyone use that routinely? I would bet that far more players are surprised and anoyed by that hotkey than actually use it. Surely it's not difficult to switch that key, or enter, to pressing the swing/pitch button.
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I agree completely with this, and am also disappointed this has not been considered or added since you first posted. I played 162 games in one-pitch mode, within a few weeks, causing my index finger to become quite sore. It would be great if there were two keys on the keyboard, as Lex said, such as B and P, for batting and hitting.
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bump -- since someone else recently asked about this
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My right index finger is now too sore to use a mouse. The kludge of crabbing the mouse sideways and clicking with the thumb is too awkward for everything except the simple pitch/swing click. It looks like I'm going to have to quit playing all games on my PC; don't know what I'll do with my time.
I'm extremely disappointed -- I've seen Clay respond to a wide variety of problems quickly. Complete silence on this one. This seems so obvious, the enter key already does something, it just does something stupid -- asks if you want to finish the game. Who needs a hot key for that? Why not have it or the space bar press the pitch/swing button?
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I'm probably in the wrong place but i would like to have the option of using the mouse for each hitter in general manager mode. i play a lot of games with the computer using my strategy settings for the first six innings but i would like to slow the game down to think about making personnel and strategy moves in the late innings. this is a great game because it gives the player so many options [seasons to play; free agency or reserve clause historic years or players]i would like to have one more
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1912
I'm probably in the wrong place but i would like to have the option of using the mouse for each hitter in general manager mode. i play a lot of games with the computer using my strategy settings for the first six innings but i would like to slow the game down to think about making personnel and strategy moves in the late innings. this is a great game because it gives the player so many options [seasons to play; free agency or reserve clause historic years or players]i would like to have one more
The Skip Inning option, with the ability to interrupt for X number of baserunners, handles this beautifully; it's one of the major improvements in 2K11. You breeze through the "nothing to think about" innings and have a chance to think when something is afoot.
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Bump. It still seems like we should be able to press the space bar for pitch/swing, and perhaps the enter key for skip inning -- who needs a hot button for finish game?
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Agreed, that would be way more convenient for a lazy S.O.B like me. :D
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Be sure to rate this thread if you would use the hot buttons; Clay has ignored this for two years now. I'd love full keyboard control, but the pitch/swing and skip inning would be simple to add.
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I just found this thread and have to assume it's tounge-in-cheek! Your finger is too sore from clicking the mouse button? Really? Man up dude!
:D :D :D
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End of the Road
I just found this thread and have to assume it's tounge-in-cheek! Your finger is too sore from clicking the mouse button? Really? Man up dude!
:D :D :D
I can assure you his request would be appreciated by me as well.
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Nothing tounge-in-cheek about it. Mouse clicking is a known, high-frequency source of repetitive stress injury. It requires a lot more pressure to click a mouse than a key. Nothing else I do requires anywhere near the amount of mouse-clicking per minute as Baseball Mogul. I have to hold the mouse crab-wise and click with my thumb. Also, you can easily vary which finger clicks a key; it is quite difficult to click a mouse with anything but the index finger. If you've never sufferred injury from using a computer, I'll assume you are under 30.
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You can also get injuries from typing, I've heard of people getting carpal tunnel syndrome from using their keyboard too much. Still, I would very much prefer to use the keyboard over the mouse in play by play mode.
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At least have a pitch or hit hot button, like the number one or return?
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"If you've never sufferred injury from using a computer, I'll assume you are under 30. "
I'm 64. I've been using a computer since 1989, probably average about 3-4 hours a day now that I'm retired, 6-9 hours a day when I was still working. I can't imagine you are really having a problem clicking a mouse. That said I believe you, but I just can't understand how that's possible. Sorry, no disrespect intended.
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OK, well I'm 54 and have sufferred a sore neck (from a monitor set too high), soreness in both arms (from using the mouse, I used my left hand for 12 years, then had to switch back to my right) and now the sore finger (for two years.) But I've probably used a computer 12-15 hours a day for the past 25 years, at work and at home. I don't do a lot else. May you never suffer chronic pain, but if you should be so unfortunate, perhaps you'll regret that "man up, dude" gratutious comment.
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And if you had been thru stage 3 inoperable lung cancer, stage 1 colon cancer and the chemo and radation that go with them as well as having severe arthritis and emphysema you wouldn't worry about that sore finger. If it was possible I would gladly trade with you.
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Originally Posted by
End of the Road
"If you've never sufferred injury from using a computer, I'll assume you are under 30. "
I'm 64. I've been using a computer since 1989, probably average about 3-4 hours a day now that I'm retired, 6-9 hours a day when I was still working. I can't imagine you are really having a problem clicking a mouse. That said I believe you, but I just can't understand how that's possible. Sorry, no disrespect intended.
It's fine that you can't imagine it. But he said it does have a problem, and I see no reason why he would lie about, and you don't either, since you believe him. It's just not relevant. Hot buttons on the keyboard is a good idea anyway, regardless of whether the mouse discomfort is imaginable or not.
I empathize with both you having pain, and I hope that your physical pain only decreases and that you both remain healthy.
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I like how this turned into an argument about who's sicker haha
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Moynes
I like how this turned into an argument about who's sicker haha
This is Clay's fault for letting a bunch of old farts join the forum! :D
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Glad you're still hanging in there. But if I had not switched to clicking the mouse with my thumb, we wouldn't be having this discussion -- I would've been forced to quit playing Baseball Mogul.
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Hopefully Clay will come out with some hot buttons, until then I hope your thumb continues to hold up.
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Just a bump for a desperately needed feature.
I use PBP mode and play a series at a time. Hot keys are desperately needed. My wrist starts to hurt after over an hour of Sports Mogul.
Hot Keys, please! (posted by a paying customer - I purchased BM through the SM store)
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Clumsy work-arounds (for Windows XP, not sure about Vista or 7):
(1) Control Panel/Mouse, swap left and right buttons
(2) Control Panel/Accessibility Options/Mouse, enable Mouse Keys. You then have to turn Mouse Keys on with CTL-left shift-Num Lock. The main thing this does is allow you to use the "5" key on the numpad to left-click. But this is quite awkward if you are mousing right-handed, since the numpad is not convenient for the left hand and it's always a nuisance to switch between mouse and keyboard with the same hand.
(3) Mouse left-handed, where it is easy to use two fingers rather than one to left-click.
(4) Hold mouse crabwise to left-click with thumb. Very awkward to move the mouse.
So, the only one that is similar to a hot key is the Mouse Keys, and the hot key is in the wrong location for right-handed users. Swapping the left and right clicks helps with the sore finger, since it is possible to use either the middle or ring finger to right-click.
It would be so much better to have the space bar = "hit or pitch" and enter key = "skip inning".
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Maybe the 15th anniversary edition will have this option and many others??