Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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04-27-2009, 01:53 PM
Wassit3

Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/...e_new_yor.html
04-27-2009, 01:59 PM
ragecage

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Ummm, let me think about this, this topic requires deep and a relaxing thought process to get my answer. Ah who am I kidding, of course they are not better without A-Rod.
04-27-2009, 01:59 PM
TheNamelessPoet

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

lol I have been waiting for this

its about damn time the Yaks relize they have a VERY special player on their team
04-27-2009, 02:07 PM
200tang

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Can't say I didn't predict them to wish A-Rod was back sooner rather than later.

Quote:

I am a life long Yankee fan and the last time I was this disgusted with them was when they lost to Boston in the playoffs.

This team has NO HEART. Poor Jeter is about the only exception. The team chemistry is horrible. Coaching is horrible (starting with Eiland) The are not winners. They are all becoming like Arod but without the talent.

Final point. PUT JOBA BACK IN THE BULLPEN. Please!

everything about that comment makes me giggle inside :>
04-27-2009, 03:15 PM
boomboom

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

There is no better 3rd baseman in the world then A-rod, let alone better player.
04-27-2009, 03:21 PM
gRYFYN1

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Anyone who thought they were in the 1st place were idiots.
04-27-2009, 03:25 PM
200tang

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboom

There is no better 3rd baseman in the world then A-rod, let alone better player.

David Wright.
04-27-2009, 03:52 PM
TheNamelessPoet

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by 200tang

David Wright.

laughable
04-27-2009, 04:01 PM
200tang

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

laughable

David Wright is younger and has more room to grow from his .924 OPS last season not to mention he has better defense.

The last 2 years David Wright has been worth 33 & 34 million dollars at the age of 24/25. Alex Rodriguez has been worth 27 & 39 million the last 2 years. Even if you think A-Rod is better than Wright, it is in no way 'laughable'.
04-27-2009, 04:07 PM
filihok

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by boomboom

There is no better 3rd baseman in the world then A-rod...

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...=2009&month=12

There are arguably around 10 better third basemen than ARod.

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Name Team Pos G GS Inn PO A E DP FP RF/G RF/9 DG exO ARM DPR RngR ErrR UZR UZR/150 Pedro Feliz - - - 3B 289 260 2342.0 181 558 20 49 .974 2.6 2.8 273 523 -0.9 17.7 9.7 26.5 14.7 Ryan Zimmerman Nationals 3B 282 282 2491.2 246 585 36 68 .959 2.9 3.0 265 514 1.2 22.3 -1.4 22.2 12.2 Scott Rolen - - - 3B 245 241 2096.1 170 475 23 38 .966 2.6 2.8 225 436 -0.5 20.4 0.1 20.0 13.5 Mike Lowell Red Sox 3B 281 275 2407.2 203 513 27 55 .964 2.5 2.7 261 503 0.6 16.7 2.1 19.4 11.1 Adrian Beltre Mariners 3B 305 301 2649.1 236 594 36 55 .958 2.7 2.8 285 551 0.8 11.6 -0.1 12.4 6.4 David Wright Mets 3B 336 336 3007.1 236 650 39 50 .958 2.6 2.7 311 605 -0.5 8.8 0.0 8.3 4.1 Aramis Ramirez Cubs 3B 286 286 2487.2 180 509 28 37 .961 2.4 2.5 263 503 0.3 5.1 2.0 7.4 4.2 Troy Glaus - - - 3B 260 255 2171.1 162 476 16 51 .976 2.5 2.6 248 482 1.6 -4.2 7.8 5.2 3.3 Alex Gordon Royals 3B 277 269 2373.0 217 489 31 43 .958 2.5 2.7 255 495 -2.6 5.5 1.8 4.7 3.1 Chone Figgins Angels 3B 221 218 1900.0 150 386 22 32 .961 2.4 2.5 192 369 0.5 3.9 -0.7 3.7 2.7 Kevin Kouzmanoff Padres 3B 307 299 2667.0 236 511 33 47 .958 2.4 2.5 276 528 1.4 -0.7 0.5 1.2 0.6 Chipper Jones Braves 3B 254 254 2180.0 145 480 24 39 .963 2.5 2.6 222 426 -0.1 -2.3 2.3 0.0 0.0 Alex Rodriguez Yankees 3B 285 285 2456.1 179 502 23 53 .967 2.4 2.5 252 489 1.0 -6.0 4.5 -0.6 -0.
04-27-2009, 04:26 PM
HoustonGM

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Quote:

Originally Posted by filihok

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...=2009&month=12

There are arguably around 10 better third basemen than ARod.

Defensively, yes, but that's not what he meant. There are only two 3B with an arguable case for being better - David Wright and Chipper Jones, and Chipper's case his hurt significantly by his lack of durability.

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Originally Posted by boomboom

There is no better 3rd baseman in the world then A-rod, let alone better player.

Albert Pujols.
04-27-2009, 04:34 PM
metsguy234

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Albert Pujols.

And don't forget Hanley.
04-27-2009, 04:38 PM
filihok

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Utley is closer than Hanley
04-27-2009, 04:48 PM
metsguy234

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by filihok

Utley is closer than Hanley

Arguable. Hanley has an edge in speed and a slight edge in power, Utley has a serious edge defensively.
04-27-2009, 04:51 PM
filihok

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

How about I take an infield of A-Rod, Hanley, Utley, and Pujols
04-27-2009, 04:57 PM
TheNamelessPoet

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by filihok

How about I take an infield of A-Rod, Hanley, Utley, and Pujols

how aobut I just hand them the trophy now lol.

A-Rod is worth my than Chipper due to his durability. I am not sold wright is better than A-Rod... and Pujols is the best player in teh game and if not for bonds would have about 5 MVP's already. Pujols is tops hands down... next I gotta say is MAYBE Hanley then A-Rod... Utley is up there but I dont think QUITE there...
04-27-2009, 04:57 PM
TheNamelessPoet

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

ug.... cant believe I said something good about the philies :(
04-27-2009, 04:58 PM
Slingshot

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by filihok

How about I take an infield of A-Rod, Hanley, Utley, and Pujols

Unbeatable.
04-27-2009, 05:00 PM
TheNamelessPoet

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Beltran in Center
Mccann/soto/martin behind the plate? (who do you take)
LF Manny

who is RF?
04-27-2009, 05:01 PM
TheNamelessPoet

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

I Like Abreu in the linup as well leading off....
but he isnt he best RF out there
04-27-2009, 05:03 PM
filihok

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

I want Sizemore on my team somewhere.

And getting back on topic

I don't want Cody Ransom anywhere near my starting 9
04-27-2009, 05:14 PM
metsguy234

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

See this thread
04-27-2009, 06:03 PM
gosensgo101

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Does it boggle anyone else's mind how bad the Yankees' bench and bullpen usually is?
04-27-2009, 06:06 PM
HoustonGM

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

The bullpen is better than it's performed. It's hard to be good when you're being counted on to pitch 7 innings a game every few days and thus you're overworked.
04-27-2009, 06:48 PM
RedsoxRockies

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Defensively, yes, but that's not what he meant. There are only two 3B with an arguable case for being better - David Wright and Chipper Jones, and Chipper's case his hurt significantly by his lack of durability.

Albert Pujols.

Grady Sizemore
04-27-2009, 06:50 PM
HoustonGM

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

Grady Sizemore

No.
04-27-2009, 06:54 PM
gRYFYN1

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

The bullpen is better than it's performed. It's hard to be good when you're being counted on to pitch 7 innings a game every few days and thus you're overworked.

Even still, the Yankee's failed to gain any depth in the Pen, they were banking on Bruney and Rameriz to be the goto guys.

While a team like the Sox went out and got Saito and Ramon Ramerez, not to mention Penny and Smoltz for less than teh Yankees spent on Burnett.
04-27-2009, 06:57 PM
RedsoxRockies

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonGM

No.

He is better then A-Rod barely. And also, how on earth could the Yankees be better WITHOUT A-Rod!?!?! That makes no sense... :confused:
04-27-2009, 07:04 PM
HoustonGM

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

He is better then A-Rod barely.

No he's not.
04-27-2009, 07:12 PM
RedsoxRockies

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

No he's not.

Aurelio Rodriguez? Yes, by miles he is. Not Alex Rodriguez, but definately Aurelio. I don't know how you can compare Aurelio and Sizemore, let alone say Aurelio was better!?! :eek:
04-27-2009, 07:40 PM
DarthJaker

Re: Do you still think the New York Yankees are better without Alex Rodriguez?

Ransum is what a 33 year old 2nd year player
A-Rod is a 35 year old 14th year player u tell me who is better?