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Originally Posted by filihok
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haha i have to laugh, but i will not share my commical cartoonsQuote:
Originally Posted by filihok
To the Guy Who Mugged Me Downtown (Downtown, Savannah) I was the guy with the black Burrberry jacket that you demanded I hand over shortly after you pulled the knife on me and my girlfriend. You also asked for my girlfriend's purse and earrings. I hope you somehow come across this message. I'd like to apologize. I didn't expect you to crap your pants when I drew my pistol after you took my jacket. Truth is, I was wearing the jacket for a reason that evening, and it wasn't that cold outside. You see, my girlfriend had just bought me that Kimber 1911 .45 ACP pistol for Christmas, and we had just picked up a shoulder holster for it that evening. Beautiful pistol, eh? It's a very intimidating weapon when pointed at your head, isn't it? I know it probably wasn't a great deal of fun walking back to wherever you'd come from with that brown sludge flopping about in your pants. I'm sure it was even worse since you also ended up leaving your shoes, cellphone, and wallet with me. I couldn't have you calling up any of your buddies to come help you try to mug us again.
I took the liberty of calling your mother, or "Momma" as you had her listed in your cell, and explaining to her your situation. I also bought myself some gas on your card. I gave your shoes to one of the homeless guys over by Vinnie Van Go Go's, along with all of the cash in your wallet, then I threw the wallet itself in a dumpster. I called a bunch of phone sex numbers from your cell. They'll be on your bill in case you'd like to know which ones. Alltel recently shut down the line, and I've only had the phone for a little over a day now, so I don't know what's going on with that. I hope they haven't permanently cut off your service. I was about to make some threatening phone calls to the DA's office with it. Oh well.
So, about your pants. I know that I was a little rough on you when you did this whole attempted mugging thing, so I'd like to make it up to you. I'm sure you've already washed your pants, so I'd like to help you out. I'd like to reimburse you for the detergent you used on the pants. What brand did you use, and was it liquid or powder? I'd also like to apologize for not killing you and instead making you walk back home humiliated. I'm hoping that you'll reconsider your choice of path in life. Next time you might not be so lucky. If you read this message, email me and we'll do lunch and laundry.
Peace!
- Alex
Ah thanks for making my point....guns begat crime...you went from defending yourself to robbing the mugger. So in protecting yourself you then went the next step, stole this guys money, shoes and phone......hmmmmm.....so glad you have a gun for protection.
A) I'm 95% sure that wasn't a true story.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickD
B) The gun wasn't the problem there. "Going the next step" was, and that was completely unrelated to the gun.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I think it was a little bit related to the gun. Exact same situation minus gun = different outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Yeah, the person getting mugged at knife-point.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
Exactly. They could have been killed, or at least would have lost all their belongings. The belongings could eventually be replaced, but not their lives, so I'm glad "Alex" and his girlfriend didn't have to take that chance. I applaud the both of them... not for taking it "too far" (even though I agree the account is likely fictionalized), but for caring enough to protect themselves.
"Just In Case"
But disappointed that Alex sunk down to the level of his attacker and did the same thing. That, however, is a problem with ALEX, not a problem with him owning a gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
Agreed, I modified my post right before you posted this.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
So, the gun was a determining factor in 'going the next step'? Probably THE determining factor in going the next step.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
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"Going the next step" was, and that was completely unrelated to the gun.
No. The determining factor was Alex choosing to. Had he used the gun in an appropriate manner, the next step would not have happened. It was him, not the gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
The determining factor was not Alex.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Alex is a constant in both situations.
The variable is the gun.
But the gun is not the problem.
The problem is that Alex is not responsible.
But I never said the gun was 'the problem'.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
The problem was clearly Alex (and the mugger).
The gun was, clearly, a factor in the outcome.
You guys really seem to care about this fictional "Alex"
But that has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not guns should be banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
very much so a fictionalized story...the problem though is with alex and how he stooped low...the problem isn't with the gun...the problem is with the gun owner...who protecting his gf and himself...and won simply by having the gun....case in point
It's like a rock versus scissors. Too bad the thief didn't have some paper. :p
But I'm not arguing that guns should be banned, or not banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I'm arguing that this statement was incorrect.
Going the next step was completely related to the gun.Quote:
"Going the next step" was, and that was completely unrelated to the gun.
Which is why there are many people who feel that banning guns would lead to less guns (regardless of whether that means only the criminals would have guns) which would lead to less escalation which would lead to less shootings.
You would've been better off using an example in which the gun owner DID NOT then break the law. That's just serving up an easy one to the opposite side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
It was a very funny story, but I agree.
Fine, so you're arguing over something which really is not related to the point. So, I'm not going to argue over it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
This relates it to the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
The presence of the gun lead a person to do something that they would not normally do.
That is one of the arguments of people who favor a gun ban.
The "escalation" in this fictional example is, once again, fiction, and I'm sure that the people who would actually do what "Alex" did would be a small, small minority of responsible gun owners, so if it's they're concerned about the 0.01% of people like Alex who would take it too far, that's far from a good reason to ban firearms considering that it will only hurt people that choose to defend themselves by NOT taking the guns away from criminals. Advantage Thief.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
If we're going to use this situation as an example about how escalation is a significant enough problem to ban firearms, let's include your entire argument - that it would lead to less shootings. In this fictional example, the escalation didn't result in a shooting, so it's a moot point. So if we're going to treat this situation as if it's the norm (that everybody possessing a firearm will only escalate the situation), then let's also treat the situation that it will never result in a shooting.
I got this example forwarded from my dad saying he was thinking of Adam when he read it
Adam West? Batman can defend himself.
ahaha, adam the guy who stole from me that is currently sitting in jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
The guy stole from me, thinking he would get off scott free (i.e. guy with knife) and in turn, I am completely screwing the guy (Alex) and taking full advantage of every law that protects me to make sure this criminal never does it again
Good job.
well, I see filihok hasn't changed at all
lol
AWOL for 8 months and THIS is how you return? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law