Acta of the Nationals or Hillman of the Royals?
If it's someone else, please specify
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Acta of the Nationals or Hillman of the Royals?
If it's someone else, please specify
I think Acta has the better chance
but that Hillman should be fired immediately.
five votes for other, but no one saying who
Why? The Royals are 7-5.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Because he is directly responsible for 2 or 3 of those losses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
See the recent discussion in the MLB Talk thread, as well as this thread.
Any manager who uses Kyle Farnsworth in tie games in the bottom of the 9th when Joakim Soria is well-rested and available and uses him against power-hitting lefties with 2 runners on base and a 2 run lead late in the game when both Joakim Soria and a strong lefty in Ron Mahay are available deserves to be fired.
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2009/...-overcome.html
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2009/...-come-off.html
Here are the two biggest reasons. I can easily list two really stupid things Hillman has done just these two weeks.
The answer to the actual question is Acta though, in spite of Hillman's stupidity, they should be good enough to hover around .500 for a while..the Nationals are just awful and the record will show it. Hillman won't be fired if the Royals are a .500ish team, no matter how bad he is (and he's been as bad as I can possibly imagine a manager being....)
I just read it, man that is just crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I can't ever recall the Royals online community being so angry after a loss. This is different....this is a new kind of angry..and I can't blame anybody for it. For the first time in forever there is actual hope, an actual reason to think the Royals can play meaningful baseball in September....and Hillman's actively trying to destroy that hope. People are getting angry.
I read the wrap up on MLB.com on the game and I am utterly speechless. Especially after this quote that was in the article.
"I didn't want to get Soria up and down for more than one inning," Hillman said.
Who cares? These are athletes, they should be able to pitch more than one f'n inning, especially when you havent pitched since the 13th and your off tommarow. Man, take Hillman out to pasture.
Yep. Hillman's excuses aren't even remotely defensible. He wouldn't use Ron Mahay against Jim Thome because Mahay isn't a "lefty specialist." He wouldn't use Joakim Soria in the 8th inning because Soria is a "closer" and closers only pitch 1 inning.
I haven't heard his excuse for not bringing in Soria in the 9th for the tie game, but it's probably "I didn't want Soria pitching in a non-save situation."
Just utter rubbish.
Don't forget him throwing the defense under the bus, including calling out players by name...except not bringing up the error by Mike Jacobs until a reporter reminded him of it.
What a POS. You gotta have some gigantic balls to make such obviously ignorant decisions and then blame your LF for not making a diving catch and your 2B for not trying to get a runner at 2nd on what would've been a bang bang play and instead taking the sure out. That's amazing. What a POS this joker is.
Here you go, but I warn you, the stupidity of what you are about to read may cause you to go blind. Keep in mind that Soria went over 1 IP 7 times last year.....so it's not like Soria can't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
http://www.kansascity.com/385/story/1150717.html
Hillman said he never considered using All-Star closer Joakim Soria instead of Farnsworth to start the ninth inning because it was a tie game.
“Not on the road,” Hillman said. “At home, yes. But not on the road. Just simply because the percentages are against you in that situation.”
The Royals entered the Texas ninth knowing they needed, as the road team, at least six outs to get a victory. Hillman said he wasn’t willing to extend Soria beyond “one up and down” because of a lack of work in recent days.
The problem now is Soria hasn’t pitched since April 13. And because of Monday’s open date in the schedule, he will have at least seven days of rest before his next appearance.
That matches his longest down time logged last season, which is something Hillman has said repeatedly that he hoped to avoid.
Juan Cruz should've pitched the 7th and 8th. Given how it played out, Soria should've replaced Mahay, not Jamey freaking Wright (who has looked good..but still......he's not Soria). So many opportunities for Hillman to dramatically influence the game, and be clusterf****d them up every single time. Amazing
The percentages are against you when you bring in one of the best closers in the game in a tie game instead of one of the most noted arsonists in the game?
ARGH. :mad:
This is the part of it that is REALLY going to blow up in his face...calling people out for something that wasn't really their fault? Yeah, that's a great way to be liked in the locker room. And once you lose the locker room, you're done.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
Man I try to give managers the benefit of the doubt when it comes to situations, but dude you are given every reason to put Soria in the 8th. Plenty of rest and a day off to boot. There is no excuse that can save you in my eyes. Percentages my butt, cuz you failed with your decisions.
If fired, he would fit perfectly in Washington if they didnt already have a loon there.
I want to point out, this is why I love Maddon so much for the Rays, he just puts in who he thinks will get the job done and most of the time hes right.
who else could be fired then?
The funny thing is, I'm 100% confident that the percentages say you'll win a tie game, bottom of the 9th, more often if you use one of the top 5 relievers in the game than if you use a homer-prone reliever who has had only 3 good seasons in an 11 season career.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Agreed. Maddon is one of my favorite managers, and he manages the bullpen well because he managers to the strengths of his players instead of inning-specific roles.Quote:
I want to point out, this is why I love Maddon so much for the Rays, he just puts in who he thinks will get the job done and most of the time hes right.
I like Manny Acta too, based on what he's said about strategy (reading BP, not liking the SB unless you can do it at a high percentage, not sac. bunting too much, etc.), but can't say I like how he's handling the people on the team.
I think if the Yankees are struggling at the All Star break, you could find Joe Girardi on the hotseat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
I would say that Joe Girardi is close. After the record setting (NYY) loss to Cleveland, their are going to be heads on the chopping block. 1st to go is the pitching coach, but Joe is next.
You can only do so much with the team handed to you, but you gotta expect that with New York, just because you shell out truckloads of money to players that cant play defense for the most part you still have to win gosh darned it.
wow, race! watch those words, there are children on here :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
fixed :)Quote:
You can only do so much with the team handed to you, but you gotta expect that with New York, just because you shell out truckloads of money to players that cant play defense for the most part you still have to win great googly moogly.
Much better Ned Flanders.
blog entry coming up about mr. Hillman, I think.
first manager fired will be....man this is tough. there aren't any obvious candidates. i don't think hillman or acta will get canned. Maybe Dusty Baker?
Unless the Cubs are dreadful, definitely not.
Everytime I hear Dusty Baker I think of Russ Ortiz
you do know that Dusty Baker no longer coaches the Cubs right? He is in cincyQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Maybe he meant that Cincy would expect to take the division if the Cubs are terrible and if they didnt then he would get canned?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffy25
No, that was just a complete brainfart. :p
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Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I was thinking the same thing
Acta is the obvious candidate, but the Nationals are so badly run, who can say what they'll do?
Well... Oakland's manager you never know... they pumped a bunch of $$$ into the team this year and traded a bunch of players to get Holliday too... if they are faltering in june/july I can see it.
other canidates, Cleveland I think, maybe Detroit?
I disagree with you on Oakland, we typical get off to a slow start, so hes probably safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
I agree with rage too. Even if the offense isn't as good as they had hoped I don't think they'll blame it on the manager, which they shouldn't. Oakland is one of the better run franchises.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Yea thats true... I forget they usualy start off slow. I Think they may be one of the best run franchises in the Majors, top 5 anyway.
Plus, they ahve nice uniforms :p
awww shucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
BTW rage... I took this at the hall... a BEAUT of a jersy both of them :D
Oh now your just mocking me. :) I love the pic
I bet it's the Royals guy.