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Boy the Yanks are getting wholloped again. I wouldnt expect that.
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Just a thread to BS about Major League Baseball.
Boy the Yanks are getting wholloped again. I wouldnt expect that.
i'm so happy hope they keep it up!
Mets came back Pef settled down now we got 9 outs for the pen and hoepfully we can add.
Zack Greinke was MAGNIFICENT through six innings tonight. His curveball was plus-plus-plus.
And taken out at 95 pitches.
I'm really starting to get sick of this strict 100 pitch count for ****ing everybody.
It's the beginning of the season. They have to get back into the swing of things, cool your jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
His name is Mike Pelfrey, not Pefrey. Shouldn't you be calling him Pelf? He's like 6'8" or something so you could call him "Pelf The Giant Elf". :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ewing6
It's not much better at other times in the season. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Teams have it set in their mind that pitchers can't go more than 100 pitches....except for the few remaining crazies that think its okay to send 23 year olds out for 130 pitches in meaningless games.
There's no middle ground anymore.
Mr. Smith,Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I understand your concern about this matter, but I feel that you may be exaggerating its severity.
Sincerely,
Michael "Metsguy" Massaroli
:rolleyes:
At least it was for Juan Cruz, who threw 2 scoreless innings with absolute ease.
Soria in for the 9th...the 1st potential wins are always the most nerve-wracking.
Also, Zack went out for the 7th but gave up a hit and both of his pitches were up...so I'm okay with taking him out, he looked a little tired.
Thanks for that. I should have looked at the recap rather than the box score.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
9-7 slug fest. Delgado 4 RBIS.
No prob.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
My god Soria is absolute gold. The 93 mph fastball followed by a 67 mph 12-6 curve to sit Dye down.
Unhittable.
EDIT: Greinke also ranged from 96 mph with the FB and threw a couple 66 mph curveballs for strikes. That's sickening. I love watching pitchers mix speeds. Greinke is a legitimate Cy Young candidate some day, he's so smart.
I'd revise "some day" to "this year."Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
Fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
And that's why you don't get a lot of sympathy...
Anyone who thinks Zack Greinke is a legitimate Cy candidate is just not thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVEN11323
Um, why the hell would you say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
In my head I think that, but I don't want to get ahead of myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
because.............Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Because he's not that good, that's like saying Gil Meche, Carlos Silva, and Oliver Perez are legit Cy candidates.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Um, no, it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
The key difference between Greinke and those guys is that he's 3+ years younger, still improving...oh, and...better.
HAHA.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Well, I'll just take solace, then, in the fact that my team has the better closer than your team.
*sigh* another metsguy case of him typing before thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
This statement assumes that he thinks at anytime whatsoever. I'm not so sure about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Speaking of morons, read the your take comment by commenter saying the Orioles are going to win the World Series. LOL
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=bal
This was the first time I gandered at the "your take" section in mlb.com and I think it will be the last.
Pirates with another win. They seriously need to cut Tyler Yates and bring up Meek. Meek had a great spring and should be in the bullpen over clowns like Yates and Sean Burnett.
The difference between Greinke and these guys is that Greinke has incredible stuff, but it is no match for the stuff between his ears. It's hard to appreciate him until you see him live. He was absolutely mesmerizing in a game I went to in April of 2007. Not only does he have that 25-30 MPH difference between his fastball and his curveball that Kowboy Koop talks about, but he is able to add and subtract velocity at will with his fastball. At times, he's like an expert hunting cat and the hitters are like his meek prey. That can get the better of him, when he starts toying with them and it can cause him to lose focus a bit, but when he's on it's a joy to watch him and with Cruz, and Soria backing him up (or ABF = Anyone But Farnsworth) it's a tough night for the opposition hitters. Even though it seems like he's been around forever, he's only 25 and he has a tremendous future ahead of him. Some pitchers are just getting their feet wet at this age. He's already had an electric rookie season at age 20, been to hell and back and now he's back with avengeance. If he continues to enjoy the game as he struggled to do in '05 and '06, he should be in line for a Cy Young and maybe more than one.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Spot on. Greinke's extremely smart on the mound, but does fall victim to getting a little bored sometimes. This is why during his rookie year he threw the eephus pitch a lot, just to see what would happen. Towards the middle of his rookie year, he had thrown it 10 or 12 times, never being hurt by it..then he threw one to Jim Thome (I think it was him) and he hit it about 500 ft. and that was the end of that. Greinke even said in the postgame interview that night that he was glad Thome crushed it because he wanted to see how far a MLB slugger could hit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
He's matured since then, but you can still tell he likes to toy with the batters....
Sounds like a couple you feel about Grienke as I do about Harden
Harden's good because his stuff is so filthy, but he's got significant injury concerns. Greinke's mechanics are very clean (as far as I know..) and he has little injury history to speak of.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
I wish Harden could stay healthy, the numbers he put up last year were pretty amazing...too bad he didn't have enough innings to qualify for the ERA title.
I know, if it wasnt for the injuries I certainly believe he could be a perennial All Star. It seems as though Grienke has been around forever. Maybe he can pull off some magic this year, ill be rooting for him and the Royals.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
I'm concerned with Harden about his bulk. I saw him throwing a bullpen session in one of those sleeveless Under Armour shirts. The dude is ripped and I'm not sure that's a good thing for a pitcher. Flexibility? Important, Toned? Important, In Shape? Important, but it just seems to me that bulk on a pitcher is not a recipe for success. Just my opinion on something I'm certainly no expert in. His stuff is unbelievable, but I'm not sure he has the mental side of it yet. Of course, with stuff like that he may not need it, but if he ever gets that part of his game down and some full seasons in, he definitely could go places and as a proud Canadian I'll be rooting for him all the way. :)
Here we go again, not scoring runs. At least the Nats can score. We are gonna get shutout 2 out of 3.
Nice to see Joe Nathan get his 200th Twins save. I'm liking what Span has been showing from the lead off spot so far.
Quality outing today by Carl Pavano. :)
For people who watch Red Sox games ..
is it me or does Jason Bay always seem to jump out on his front foot the swing through the ball with his upper body - It always looks like he fooled on every pitch.
Carpenter with a no-hitter through 6 innings, but the Cards are losing 1-0
lol thats like an oxymoronQuote:
Originally Posted by EVEN11323
well I guess OUT and Pavano make sense... ohhhh I crack myself up lol
hmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Pirates get their first hit after 6.2 Innings.
Twins wasted a good long outing by Perkins and got shut out by the M's.