Trey Hillman, Supergenius

Sure...I don't think Seidman's point was to blame that loss on Cox completely, like Hillman deserves with the Farnsworth game, but rather to just point out the poor and rigid bullpen management, which is all too common in MLB today.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Sure...I don't think Seidman's point was to blame that loss on Cox completely, like Hillman deserves with the Farnsworth game, but rather to just point out the poor and rigid bullpen management, which is all too common in MLB today.

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See, with Cox I don't at all blame the way he's managing his pen, because he needs to figure who is going to be his guys. He doesn't really know who his best relievers are, so you might as well give them roles and see how they do. Now, if he doesn't adjust their roles even though it's not working, that would be much worse.

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

I still scratch my head at how the human arm must've evolved so much in just 30 years because in the 60's and 70's, pitcher's threw [gasp!] over 100 pitches routinely. And a quick glance at the DL's shows pitchers today are hurt just as much (more I think) then back then.

I know you're all tired of hearing it........ but I'm just sayin'. :)

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Nah, I'm right here with you on this. I don't know what happened. I don't understand when six innings became a "complete game" and when bullpens began looking like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Sure, we can pull out Randy Johnson and Greg Maddux and John Smoltz - all great pitchers who've had long and distinguished careers. But then, we had Jim Kaat back in the day, and Jim Palmer, and Steve Carlton and Gaylord Perry.

I think, to answer the "question" of this thread, managers are terrified of having what could be called "bullpen by committee". It's such a code word for "we have no one with talent"...but it doesn't need to be. There's nothing that prevents a team from running a bullpen as it was in the 1970's - HGM mentioned Gossage.

Yeah it could be done for sure.

By the way, high five to Tony LaRussa. Even though he is largely "responsible" for the move towards the one-inning, strict closer...he's flexible, going with Dennys Reyes today in a save situation, based on the fact that the three hitters coming up were 2 lefties and a switch-hitter. Playing to the situation, rather than boxing players into innings, good job.

Most definitely

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Originally Posted by Trey Hillman

"When you put professional baseball players in the dictionary, he's [Derek Jeter] one of the first names that should come up."

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:confused:

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Originally Posted by Steven Wright

“Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?”

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lol weird