Papelbon says Ramirez was a 'cancer'

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9326780?MSNHPHMA

I'll never accuse Papelbon of holding back or being shy.

Yah, that boy ain't big on tact, exactly. Not one to dance around issues or say 'no comment'

Well, there goes Papelbon's cred in these forums. Poor guy.

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"It just takes one guy to bring an entire team down, and that's exactly what was happening," Papelbon told the magazine.

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Guess he didn't get the memo that team chemistry doesn't mean anything.:p

I'm sure he'll get reminded of it in this thread.:D

I'm not sure why this is news. Ramirez was a big problem - fought with Youk in the dugout, pushed sox staff around, requested trades, tried the sitting-out-important-games thing, and pretty much being as much of a pain as any team had to deal with.

I know Boras would like to downplay it, and focus on stats (the good ones, not his defensive ones), but it wasn't like owners had just shown up the the MLB last August. They're all seen this guy in action. Not a great teammate, on another planet - we know.

In other news, Manny has long hair!!

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

In other news, Manny has long hair!!

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Hippie.

Well, on the other hand, Matt Kemp thinks Manny is awesome, so, that's ok with me.

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Originally Posted by Alloutwar

In other news, Manny has long hair!!

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Hippie.

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rofl

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Originally Posted by OldFatGuy

Well, there goes Papelbon's cred in these forums. Poor guy.

Guess he didn't get the memo that team chemistry doesn't mean anything.:p

I'm sure he'll get reminded of it in this thread.:D

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Shame on you, OFG! This is the Forums, remember, and we're the experts! If we can't measure it, it doesn't exist! :rolleyes:

must be a slow news day

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Oh by the way did you know Obama is president?

Speak up when he is on the team, not months later.

Sorry to me it's like.
OK we get. Manny was a horrible teammate...who hit 11 post season home runs for the Sox. He was a lazy guy who only had 2 bad seasons (and by bad, i mean by his standards)
He never had to paint a sock red though (just kidding. come down Red Sox Nation).
He doesn't play there anymore, but they sure seem to love talking about ol Man Ram still.
I've never thought one man could blow up an entire team (unless that man is T.O.).
Just seems that there should be better things to talk about. How about can Pedroia have another great year? Is it time for Ellsbury to breakout? Or any of the young starters going to seriously establish themselves?
Those would be better topics I would love to hear Papelbon talk about.

I think the questioning by the reporter is what caused the Manny issue to be rehashed if you ask me. You know those reporters, they cant let a story die.

hypocrisy is why this is a story.

I think its absurd that many cry for honesty and insight rather than cliches during player interviews, and then when they get some attack the player and spout the "what happens in the clubhouse, stays in the clubhouse" cliche!! Are you serious?

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Originally Posted by dickay

hypocrisy is why this is a story.

I think its absurd that many cry for honesty and insight rather than cliches during player interviews, and then when they get some attack the player and spout the "what happens in the clubhouse, stays in the clubhouse" cliche!! Are you serious?

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Who is attacking Papelbon and saying "what happens in the clubhouse, stays in the clubhouse"? I really don't know what the hell you're talking about by saying "hypocrisy is why this is a story."

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Originally Posted by dickay

hypocrisy is why this is a story.

I think its absurd that many cry for honesty and insight rather than cliches during player interviews, and then when they get some attack the player and spout the "what happens in the clubhouse, stays in the clubhouse" cliche!! Are you serious?

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Your making no sense