The strange genius of Manny Ramirez
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An intimate new biography of the Los Angeles Dodgers' oddball slugger reveals a closet intellectual who has as much in common with Einstein as Ted Williams.
Well, how much does Ted Williams have in common with Einstein anyway?
(Ah, sloppy blogger grammar!)
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...manny-ramirez/
Re: The strange genius of Manny Ramirez
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JayC
They're both dead. I guess he means that Manny's brain dead. :D
Re: The strange genius of Manny Ramirez
you hear his interview on ESPN? they asked about his goals this year, he said he didn't have any.
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After he was traded to the Red Sox in 2001
Huh ?
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His final season with the Sox, in 2008, devolved into melodrama. Eager to leave Boston, Ramirez fought with his teammates and appeared listless in the field, nonchalantly refusing to run out ground balls
Um as a Sox fan I can tell you that Ramirez stopped running out ground balls while wearing a Sox uni at somepoint in Spring training of 2001.
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Re: The strange genius of Manny Ramirez
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JayC
Why do people question his work ethic?
"I think some of it is racism" (????!)-wtf?
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Never, ever quote these 2 as the best Sox OF ever. Ted Williams numbers are lower than they should be because he took 4 years off to fly/train aerial combat during WW2 in the USMC. Then he came back and kept hitting like he never stopped.
Manny, who I wont deny is an incredible player, gave up on his team because he wasnt making over $25 MILLION. He will make the HOF, but will be forgotten quickly in the ******* category.
Dont play the race card cause it doesnt work for Manny.
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grasshopper
Manny, who I wont deny is an incredible player, gave up on his team because he wasnt making over $25 MILLION.
gave up? , no he didn't give up that's a total myth, he's flaky and high maitence and, after eight years, that wears on a team/fan base.
Having watched the Sox for about 20-25 years, I've never marveled at hitter they way I did at Manny.
While I agree comparing Manny and Williams is kinda nuts, I quoted a few passages earlier that showing the the author is, in fact a *****. (Mor-on is edited out? it not like i called him a douche or jackass or ****ing ass!)
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who has as much in common with Einstein as Ted Williams.
But maybe he's trying to get at the connection is: "nothing"
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gRYFYN1
But maybe he's trying to get at the connection is: "nothing"
Oh yeah, I got that. I was just tossing a joking reference to the fact that the way the sentence is worded is imprecise. It actually says Manny has as much in common with Einstein as Ted Williams has in common with Einstein. Which also may be true, but wasn't what the writer meant.
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If "giving up" results in hitting .347/.473/.587....give me a team of players that give up.
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HoustonGM
If "giving up" results in hitting .347/.473/.587....give me a team of players that give up.
yea but what good is getting on base 47% of the time if you don't "hustle" the 53% you make an out?
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gRYFYN1
yea but what good is getting on base 47% of the time if you don't "hustle" the 53% you make an out?
Lol, I know right...
Gotta love the bullcrap the Red Sox organization and the media are (successfully) feeding the fans.
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HoustonGM
If "giving up" results in hitting .347/.473/.587....give me a team of players that give up.
Please stop feeding the strawman. It's documented that he faked a knee injury. He has a documented history of refusing to pinch-hit (and being suspended a game for doing so). It's documented that he threatened to sit out a series. It's documented he started a fight with Youkilis and that he pushed down an old man. He has ADMITTED he forced his way out of Boston.
I really don't understand why any of this is subject to debate and it's utterly ridiculous for posters to accuse fans of 'drinking the kool-aid' for believing any of this. One may as well be saying 'so you're drinking that Newton guy's kool-aid, huh?'
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Whether or not he "forced his way out of Boston" isn't the question. He did not "give up" or "quit on the team". On the field, in July, during the month he was supposedly "dogging it", "quitting", etc., he was their most productive hitter.
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HoustonGM
Whether or not he "forced his way out of Boston" isn't the question. He did not "give up" or "quit on the team". On the field, in July, during the month he was supposedly "dogging it", "quitting", etc., he was their most productive hitter.
You don't think it's possible to dog it and produce? You haven't watched enough Manny.
For the greatest right-handed hitter since Hornsby, it's well within his power to rake some, then take 7 seconds to get to first while the team is getting no-hit. It's well within his power to hit a couple of dingers and then in the field turn a single into a triple by rolling over the ball and laugh about it.
And you don't think faking an injury and threatening to sit out a series is quitting? Are you kidding me? He's getting paid 20 million fukking dollars. He had to be threatened with suspension to get on the field. This is documented. He told Epstein at the last second he would 'be good' if the Sox would just drop his option years
When you have to threatened with suspension to get your butt on the field, you HAVE quit on your team.
And in reference to the old BP Sheehan piece: Yeah he played a lot of games..after being threatened with suspension if he did not. Sheehan doesn't mention that.
Btw, i'm not cursing AT you HGM.