Cassel sent to Chiefs

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Originally Posted by DarthJaker

I'm gonna kill Matt Cassel if Tom Brady isn't starting on opening day:mad::mad::mad:

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It is not his fault he got traded

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Originally Posted by filihok

I hope this is at least slightly sarcastic.

The talent around Cassell might have been just a tad better than that of the Chiefs which would allow Cassell to put up better numbers.

And DJ: I don't think that Brady's knee has anything to do with Cassell

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I'm not calling Cassell a great QB. I'm saying Thigpen isn't very good. Such a poor completion percentage in the system they were running in the 2nd half of the season is quite poor. A real starting QB would've done much, much better.

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Originally Posted by KowboyKoop

I'm not calling Cassell a great QB. I'm saying Thigpen isn't very good. Such a poor completion percentage in the system they were running in the 2nd half of the season is quite poor. A real starting QB would've done much, much better.

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I think the point fili was trying to make wasn't that you're overrating Cassell, but that you're severely underrating Thigpen who is 2 years younger than Cassell and Thigpen also played on a much worse team. I think the starting QB should be based on next year's pre-season rather than just saying "Well Cassel was better last year sooo...."

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

It is not his fault he got traded

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YES it is he was born:p:p

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Originally Posted by DarthJaker

YES it is he was born:p:p

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Well, not that this was a serious response, but how is being born his fault?

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Originally Posted by 200tang

I think the point fili was trying to make wasn't that you're overrating Cassell, but that you're severely underrating Thigpen who is 2 years younger than Cassell and Thigpen also played on a much worse team. I think the starting QB should be based on next year's pre-season rather than just saying "Well Cassel was better last year sooo...."

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I'm not opposed to having Thigpen be in competition for the starting spot, but he simply isn't very good. Making some short passes to Tony Gonzalez and then watching the HOF'er drag 5 guys for 10 extra yards over and over doesn't make Thigpen a good QB. His arm is inaccurate. Simple as that. With the system the Chiefs switched to last year, any decent QB can complete 58%+ of passes in his sleep. Thigpen missed so many easy throws last year it was unbelievable. The only reason anyone thinks he's any good is b/c he came literally out of nowhere and is/was a nice story. Don't buy the hype.

The following takes place between now and when I sober up.

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Originally Posted by DarthJaker

I'm gonna kill Matt Cassel if Tom Brady isn't starting on opening day:mad::mad::mad:

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Did someone just make a terrorist threat on future HOF QB Matt Cassel? Chloe, give me the coordinates to DarthJakers residence. I need to apprehend the suspect and force him to tell me all he knows about the planned attack on the White House.

You'll never find me:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I'm a little bit surprised New England didn't hold off a bit longer with Cassel and see if the value went up as the few free agent passers signed and left any team that still had a hole at QB more desperate. Not a bad trade, though...KC gets another young passer and New England gets a 2nd round pick for unloading about $11 mil off their cap.

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

I'm a little bit surprised New England didn't hold off a bit longer with Cassel and see if the value went up as the few free agent passers signed and left any team that still had a hole at QB more desperate. Not a bad trade, though...KC gets another young passer and New England gets a 2nd round pick for unloading about $11 mil off their cap.

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They should have tried to rip Detriot off of that 1st pick :D

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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies

They should have tried to rip Detriot off of that 1st pick :D

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Nah, that never would have happened. :D I dunno, I wonder if they maybe could have gotten...maybe not a 1st...but a 2nd and either a 3rd or 4th from somebody if they'd held off a bit.

Great trade for both sides:
KC gets a good, young QB that can win games, and a solid veteran LB on a young defense.
NE gets a high(ish) draft pick that they can use to possibly move up in the first round.

I think everyone's overlooking the real losers in this trade, though:

All of the QBs in the draft class.

With KC out of the picture, that means they're losing #3 pick money, and having to settle for later selections, and lesser contracts.

True that, POC. Sanchez can probably make arrangements to be in New York now.

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Originally Posted by PotatoOfCouch13

NE gets a high(ish) draft pick that they can use to possibly move up in the first round.

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Or they'll unload it for a couple of later picks. That seems to be their preferred M.O.

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Originally Posted by StreetMedic

Or they'll unload it for a couple of later picks. That seems to be their preferred M.O.

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True, they've done that in the past, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do it again to save cap space for Wilfork. However, if someone high on their board available at 15-17, I'm sure Belichick will be on the phone shopping the 23rd and the Chiefs' 2nd rounder.