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Report: Haynesworth to the ‘skins
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Our pal Lance Zierlein, a Houston radio host who has a blog at the Chronicle web site, reports that the Washington Redskins will sign Titans defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth upon the start of the free agency period.
Unless, that is, the Titans exceed the offer that the Redskins will be making.
Writes Zierlein: “My source tells me to look for a contract that could break $100 million with an average of $15 million to $16 million per. My guy is almost never wrong and [Redskins owner] Dan Snyder gets what he wants.”
The bright side? The next time that Haynesworth tries to remove the scalp of Cowboys center Andre Gurode with a cleat, the behavior will better fit the nickname of Haynesworth’s team.
On Monday, Peter King of SI.com predicted that Haynesworth will land in D.C., pointing out that Snyder was seen dining in Indianapolis with Haynesworth’s agent, Chad Speck.
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So, they'll spend what cap space they have on Haynesworth and ignore every other hole on the team. Nice to see Dan Snyder is still an idiot.
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this isn't suprising as snyder is the only owner willing to spend that kind of $ on a free agent
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etothep
this isn't suprising as snyder is the only owner willing to spend that kind of $ on a free agent
No no, let's not forget the guy he seems to have learned from...Jerry Jones. He's always willing to overpay for a guy, so long as that guy is a complete dick. :D
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Good thing, I was almost worried Pat Bowlen would go after him.
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Arctic Blast
No no, let's not forget the guy he seems to have learned from...Jerry Jones. He's always willing to overpay for a guy, so long as that guy is a complete dick. :D
jones won't overpay a dt, the position isn't flashy enough
only 2 teams i see haynesworth playing for next year are the skins or the titans
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etothep
jones won't overpay a dt, the position isn't flashy enough
only 2 teams i see haynesworth playing for next year are the skins or the titans
STRONGLY disagree. Tampa's dumped every veteran they have to get cap space and he'd fit that defensive system perfectly. I also wouldn't be surprised at all to see Carolina throw a bid in there.
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Arctic Blast
STRONGLY disagree. Tampa's dumped every veteran they have to get cap space and he'd fit that defensive system perfectly. I also wouldn't be surprised at all to see Carolina throw a bid in there.
I stand my statement that the Skins are likely the only team to even contact him about his asking price (14-16M a year). I can see the Titans wanting him at about 12M per, along with maybe another team or 2. Why would the Bucs get rid of productive vets to clear space to sign just 1 player like Haynesworth? Doesn't make sense to me
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etothep
I stand my statement that the Skins are likely the only team to even contact him about his asking price (14-16M a year). I can see the Titans wanting him at about 12M per, along with maybe another team or 2. Why would the Bucs get rid of productive vets to clear space to sign just 1 player like Haynesworth? Doesn't make sense to me
Uhhh...they've already done their cuts, man. Brooks, Dunn, June and a few others...they chopped them earlier today. And why NOT sign a guy like Haynesworth? You backload the salary and stack up the bonus to a big chunk of the overall deal (and they can afford to), then re-do the contract in 2-3 years. NOBODY is going to give him 14-16 A YEAR...it averages to that mount by dividing total value by years, but no player EVER actually makes those massive backloaded final year salaries...it either gets re-negotiated or he gets released.
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Arctic Blast
Uhhh...they've already done their cuts, man. Brooks, Dunn, June and a few others...they chopped them earlier today. And why NOT sign a guy like Haynesworth? You backload the salary and stack up the bonus to a big chunk of the overall deal (and they can afford to), then re-do the contract in 2-3 years. NOBODY is going to give him 14-16 A YEAR...it averages to that mount by dividing total value by years, but no player EVER actually makes those massive backloaded final year salaries...it either gets re-negotiated or he gets released.
I already noted earlier today that they made releases, I don't see them releasing productive players to simply go after 1 player though.
And yes, Haynesworth has made it known that he's looking for a deal that's similar to Asomugha's new deal (meaning 14-16M a year, not backloaded like Nate Clement's deal). Again, just don't see the Bucs as a legit player for him. Skins have been the team he is expected to go to from the day he said he was going to test free agency, and that's for a reasaon.
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Wow, now I can hate Albert Haynesworth even more, for he plays for Daniel Snyder!
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etothep
I already noted earlier today that they made releases, I don't see them releasing productive players to simply go after 1 player though.
And yes, Haynesworth has made it known that he's looking for a deal that's similar to Asomugha's new deal (meaning 14-16M a year, not backloaded like Nate Clement's deal). Again, just don't see the Bucs as a legit player for him. Skins have been the team he is expected to go to from the day he said he was going to test free agency, and that's for a reasaon.
He can make it be known all he wants, it doesn't mean he's going to get it. Manny Ramirez and Scott Boras wanted a $100 million deal...how'd that turn out?
Now, I agree that if there is someone who will go that high it IS Washington. Snyder's an idiot when it comes to big contracts. I really don't see Tennessee even staying in the bidding...they always tend towards letting guys go and drafting replacements.
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He can make it be known all he wants, it doesn't mean he's going to get it. Manny Ramirez and Scott Boras wanted a $100 million deal...how'd that turn out?
Now, I agree that if there is someone who will go that high it IS Washington. Snyder's an idiot when it comes to big contracts. I really don't see Tennessee even staying in the bidding...they always tend towards letting guys go and drafting replacements.
Haha, even if he doesn't get it, doesn't mean he won't get close (11-12M per for at least 4 years). I don't see a team in obvious rebuild mode like Tampa making that offer (and since they appear to have gone in rebuild mode, I think they would have to outbid the other teams interested to land him). Only teams I see him signing with are Washington, Tennessee, Houston, Jacksonville (while they were bad this past year, they should have realized the importance of strong interior linemen as that was the main difference between their 07 & 08 teams), or Atlanta
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etothep
Haha, even if he doesn't get it, doesn't mean he won't get close (11-12M per for at least 4 years). I don't see a team in obvious rebuild mode like Tampa making that offer (and since they appear to have gone in rebuild mode, I think they would have to outbid the other teams interested to land him). Only teams I see him signing with are Washington, Tennessee, Houston, Jacksonville (while they were bad this past year, they should have realized the importance of strong interior linemen as that was the main difference between their 07 & 08 teams), or Atlanta
The thing is, DOES Tampa think they're in rebuild mode? Who knows? Houston doesn't really work...they already pay a fortune to the multiple first round picks on their D-line. And that actually wasn't a bad position for them...they need a guy who can cover anyone, and a decent outside linebacker. Jacksonville...maybe. I think they need offensive line help more, though...they had no offense when their running game vanished, and they couldn't run because the blocking was awful.Skins are possible, The Titans are possible unless the numbers go too high. Atlanta's not a bad possibility. The more I think about it, though, the more I think the Panthers might end up with him (unless the Skins offer outright stupid money).
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Arctic Blast
The thing is, DOES Tampa think they're in rebuild mode? Who knows? Houston doesn't really work...they already pay a fortune to the multiple first round picks on their D-line. And that actually wasn't a bad position for them...they need a guy who can cover anyone, and a decent outside linebacker. Jacksonville...maybe. I think they need offensive line help more, though...they had no offense when their running game vanished, and they couldn't run because the blocking was awful.Skins are possible, The Titans are possible unless the numbers go too high. Atlanta's not a bad possibility. The more I think about it, though, the more I think the Panthers might end up with him (unless the Skins offer outright stupid money).
Panthers have to trade Pep, after likely releasing some players as well, before they can be in the mix (they're in bad cap shape right now) and they have bigger problems in the secondary than they do on the d-line. If they can trade Pep for a CB or a safety, then I could see him as a possibility. The Bucs may not think they're in rebuild mode, but to most people it looks that way after releasing a handful of their most productive players & having McCown lined up as their current starter at QB. Texans aren't in bad cap shape, so I don't see why that's a bad move at all for them. Personally, I think the Falcons & Texans are the best fits for him, but as I said I think he'll end up as a Skin. I will go ahead and say there is ZERO chance he ends up with the Cowboys, that much I'm positive of
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etothep
Panthers have to trade Pep, after likely releasing some players as well, before they can be in the mix (they're in bad cap shape right now) and they have bigger problems in the secondary than they do on the d-line. If they can trade Pep for a CB or a safety, then I could see him as a possibility. The Bucs may not think they're in rebuild mode, but to most people it looks that way after releasing a handful of their most productive players & having McCown lined up as their current starter at QB. Texans aren't in bad cap shape, so I don't see why that's a bad move at all for them. Personally, I think the Falcons & Texans are the best fits for him, but as I said I think he'll end up as a Skin. I will go ahead and say there is ZERO chance he ends up with the Cowboys, that much I'm positive of
It's not that he's a bad fit for Houston, it's that they have a much bigger need for a cornerback or a linebacker other than DeMeco Ryans who can actually make a tackle. Actually, with Anthony Weaver getting the boot they need a defensive end more than a defensive tackle. Oh, and as for Tampa's cap...they actually have between $30-$40 mil in space...they have one of the biggest chunks of cap room in the league to play with. They can afford to throw a pile of it on a guy to rebuild the D around, then use the draft to put talent around him. Carolina's not actually in that bad of shape, though...yes...they would have to line up a trade partner for Peppers...if not before the trade, afterwards to give them room to do anything else.
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It's not that he's a bad fit for Houston, it's that they have a much bigger need for a cornerback or a linebacker other than DeMeco Ryans who can actually make a tackle. Actually, with Anthony Weaver getting the boot they need a defensive end more than a defensive tackle. Oh, and as for Tampa's cap...they actually have between $30-$40 mil in space...they have one of the biggest chunks of cap room in the league to play with.
they also need 5-7 more starters after today...and I don't recall seeing one of their released players being a DT, just think they need a few receivers, a qb, a rb (williams & graham both coming off injuries, williams for the second year in a row), & a few linebackers with at least 3 of those 5-6 players being needed to start (meaning they either won't be cheap or won't be good)...long story short, i just think the bucs are further away from being a playoff team than any of the mentioned teams in this thread (cept maybe Jax) and have the most holes to fill out of the teams mentioned (again, cept maybe Jax)
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etothep
they also need 5-7 more starters after today...and I don't recall seeing one of their released players being a DT, just think they need a few receivers, a qb, a rb (williams & graham both coming off injuries, williams for the second year in a row), & a few linebackers with at least 3 of those 5-6 players being needed to start (meaning they either won't be cheap or won't be good)...long story short, i just think the bucs are further away from being a playoff team than any of the mentioned teams in this thread (cept maybe Jax) and have the most holes to fill out of the teams mentioned (again, cept maybe Jax)
Oh, you're right...I do agree with you. I could see them looking back and realizing that defense was always built around that great defensive tackle, though, and deciding to go sign him up.
Ugh...Jacksonville...my team is a disaster. Receivers...average at best. O-line...terrible. D-line...half there. Coach...terrible.
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Oh, you're right...I do agree with you. I could see them looking back and realizing that defense was always built around that great defensive tackle, though, and deciding to go sign him up.
Ugh...Jacksonville...my team is a disaster. Receivers...average at best. O-line...terrible. D-line...half there. Coach...terrible.
The receiving corps wouldn't be as disappointing if they all weren't former first round picks
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etothep
The receiving corps wouldn't be as disappointing if they all weren't former first round picks
Tell me about it. Reggie Williams was a really stupid reach...they wanted a receiver so they massively over-reached for one. Matt Jones wasn't a bad gamble...unfortunately, he finally started to pan out the same year we found out he's a raging cokehead.
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Well, Washington just threw an asinine amount of money at DeAngelo Hall. 6 years $54 million, $22.5 million of that being signing bonus.
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Haynesworth 7 yrs/100 million dollars
Wow.
Largest contract ever for not a Quarterback.
Wow.
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So, they're basically done just on those 2. The rumor was that signing Haynesworth would cost them Jason Taylor, too, so I'd be interested to see what the Hell they'd do to replace HIM.
Looks like Bart Scott is a Jet...that's a nice signing.
And Stacy Andrews is an Eagle...also a nice signing.
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Broncos already signed 2 RBs, Buckhalter & Arrington. Buckhalter is injury-prone (though good when healthy) & Arrington is a much better kick returner than a RB. Heard they're also close to signing Reynaldo Hill, Jabar Gaffney, & another former Eagle Brian Dawkins (who would be the best signing out of the bunch in my opinion)
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I vaguely remember Haynesworth saying that his free agency decision wouldn't come down to money. Not that I believed him or anything. I am not even busting his chops here as that is the politically correct thing to say, but I just find it somewhat funny.
As for the deal, $100 million dollars isn't good for someone who can't play 5 series' in a row without needing to get oxygen.
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I vaguely remember Haynesworth saying that his free agency decision wouldn't come down to money. Not that I believed him or anything. I am not even busting his chops here as that is the politically correct thing to say, but I just find it somewhat funny.
As for the deal, $100 million dollars isn't good for someone who can't play 5 series' in a row without needing to get oxygen.
Frankly, someone offers you the mass of guaranteed money Washington threw down at his feet, YOU TAKE IT.
Of course, they're no closer to winning a Super Bowl than they were before. They're still not great on the corner, they have no replacement for Marcus Washington at SLB, and they're still too reliant on inconsistent wide receivers. Plus, Portis is getting to that point where one of these years he just isn't going to have 'it' anymore.
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Yeah I gotta say this one doesn't suprise me one bit.
