LeBron

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Originally Posted by etothep

I know, hence why I don't get why people would say Lebron isn't on Kobe or Wade's level when Lebron has had the worst supporting cast of the 3 of them




I'm just saying it kills me how not only casual fans, but renowned sports writers judge players by championships. I mean, if the sports writers would just take an introductory course in logic at their local community colleges, they would stop throwing this idea out to the public and we could have much better arguments on who is/was great...

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Agreed on both points. Though now I would say Wade has the worst supporting cast.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

Agreed on both points. Though now I would say Wade has the worst supporting cast.

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agreed, but not when he won his title

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Originally Posted by etothep

agreed, but not when he won his title

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True.

Case in point though: Wade has 48 currently. The Heat are losing 107-88.

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Originally Posted by etothep

My point in using those extremes is that teams win the championships. Punishing a player like Lebron b/c his best teammate to this point in his career has been Mo 'You couldn't pick me out of a lineup' Williams doesn't make any sense to me. It's like saying Pujols didn't deserve the MVP this past season b/c his team didn't make the playoffs.

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I see your point. I am not saying a bench warmer is better because he sat the bench and won 4 championships. It's just when you compare STAR players, the most important stat is how many championships he won. Should that take away from Lebron's talent, no. But it will unless he gets the supporting cast similar to what Bird or Magic Johnson had. BTW, do you remember George "Iceman" Gervin? He played around the time Bird and Magic did, but he isn't remembered as much since he won NO championship!

GO CAVS!!!

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Originally Posted by daves

I see your point. I am not saying a bench warmer is better because he sat the bench and won 4 championships. It's just when you compare STAR players, the most important stat is how many championships he won. Should that take away from Lebron's talent, no. But it will unless he gets the supporting cast similar to what Bird or Magic Johnson had. BTW, do you remember George "Iceman" Gervin? He played around the time Bird and Magic did, but he isn't remembered as much since he won NO championship!

GO CAVS!!!

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they don't remember mr finger-roll b/c he wasn't as good as bird & magic :p