Something I don't understand
Being a big time Cardinal fan. I have (seemingly) been the only one that didn't hate our closer for the past 8 years. Jason Isringhausen. He is the club leader in all time saves...had many good seasons...and struggled in 06 due to a hip injury that he tried to play through...the year that we won the world series. Right now there is talks about bringing izzy back on an incentavie laden contract...which I would be happy about. But so many fans are in an outrage about this....and I simply don't understand why. Last year he feel off. and in 06 he struggled...but through 8 seasons he had an era below (i believe) 3.00 and converted a very high percentage of his saves....so why do so many fans hate him? Do any of you have a similar situation for your fav club? I am constantly the only one that seemed to like him...and after looking more and more at his numbers I don't know why.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/i/isrinja01.shtml
Hell the guy converted 32 of 34 as recently as 07. How can you hate him so much soo soon?
An example of what I am talking about:
http://www.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=607407
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and fans really hated kennedy too. He wasn't that bad...played decent defense. I'm sure there are better second basemen out there, but man they ragged on these guys...and I guess I expect more from st. louis fans.
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JD Drew here in Boston. He is a fine player, but most fans here hate him. I on the other hand like him. As for the Rockies, idk, as I do not know any other Rockies fans personally, so I don't know who is the most hated that I like
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RedsoxRockies
JD Drew here in Boston. He is a fine player, but most fans here hate him. I on the other hand like him. As for the Rockies, idk, as I do not know any other Rockies fans personally, so I don't know who is the most hated that I like
Rockies fans hate a new person every week...same with Bronco fans (once Jake Plummer left...who was to hate??).
They do have a serious problem against Torrealba though. It's odd.
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Coming from an A's fan, they probably hate him so much because hes seems to always put on a high wire act when he comes in to save the day. When he was with us, he always made me a nervous wreck.
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Coming from an A's fan, they probably hate him so much because hes seems to always put on a high wire act when he comes in to save the day. When he was with us, he always made me a nervous wreck.
I understand that. He always seemed to allow the first guy to get on and tried to force certain pitches it seemed, but he always seemed to get the job done....so why hate hm? Any team would be lucky to have a closer who consistently had an era under 3
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Jeffy25
I understand that. He always seemed to allow the first guy to get on and tried to force certain pitches it seemed, but he always seemed to get the job done....so why hate hm? Any team would be lucky to have a closer who consistently had an era under 3
I think it's a closer thing, to be honest. The average fan is probably more likely to remember one of the six or seven blown saves, not the 30 or 35 saves the closer did convert, regardless of ERA or any other stat.
Keith Foulke was kind of the same way when he was with Boston in '04. 2.17 ERA and 32 saves, but I remember a lot of fans absolutely despising him.
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Most fans have an extreme "what-have-you-done-for-me-lately" attitude. Isringhausen was terrible in 2008, so everything he's ever done must have been terrible.
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YEAH DAAAAWG
I think it's a closer thing, to be honest. The average fan is probably more likely to remember one of the six or seven blown saves, not the 30 or 35 saves the closer did convert, regardless of ERA or any other stat.
Keith Foulke was kind of the same way when he was with Boston in '04. 2.17 ERA and 32 saves, but I remember a lot of fans absolutely despising him.
That's what I felt like it probably was.
and what Houston said.
It's gotta be a low love job for sure.
And I noticed that about Drew as well.
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....so why do so many fans hate him? Do any of you have a similar situation for your fav club?
J.D. Drew...read the comments today on ESPN about his sore back.
Red Sox fans can be the stupidest ingrates on Earth.
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Pavelb1
J.D. Drew...read the comments today on ESPN about his sore back.
Red Sox fans can be the stupidest ingrates on Earth.
And Julio Lugo.
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J.D. Drew...read the comments today on ESPN about his sore back.
Red Sox fans can be the stupidest ingrates on Earth.
Yeah, those ba5tards!
:rolleyes:
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I don't like Torrealba because I love Iannetta and think that Iannetta should be starting more.
I don't like Willy-T because he couldn't get on base
There ya go RSR
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StreetMedic
Yeah, those ba5tards!
:rolleyes:
Did you 'see all 59 comments' I doubt it. It would shoot down your pitiful attempt at sarcasm....but I'm nice. I'll do your homework for you.
Thundaroad:"J.D. stands for "Just Disabled"'
Ahmstrong88:"theres a reason why they call him nancy drew"
Neophytal:"figures... drew is always like this"
Venkball:"I love the guy but c'mon, get in shape."
Scorpio172572:"Epstein gets a free pass with his bad signings. Drew was an awful signing. Average at best getting all that money, ridiculous."
Wuxura:"Another Boras FA blowing up in our face - I hope Red Sox learn their lesson to never sign a Boras FA "
Jlvose:"What a MISTAKE signing Drew!He had the back problems coming over to Boston!!Here he is,still whimpering about the back.I would have to say this was Theos biggest mistake.....so far "
Noescapinggravity:"How can he STILL be injured?! This guy has to be the most frustrating player in baseball. It's amazing to me that Theo can make two of the two worst free agent signings in club history (Drew, Julio Lugo) and still win the 2007 World Series. "
Stryknyne: "A sore back is just a symptom. Poor JD suffers from a life-long chronic case of vaginitis - there is no cure. "
NHVikingsfan: "Vegas has the odds at 100:1 he is in the opening day lineup. Thanks Theo, what a waste of money. "
Mdsample:"and fans wonder why ticket prices are so high- anything to do with theo's [awesome] contract negotiating skills: lugo, drew, and lowell... where's manny? "
flashxiii: "Somebody please tell me that this is one of the years that his contract can be voided if he goes on the DL. I've had enough of watching Drew play for my team. "
Mikeroyne:"way to tough it out nancy drew...only 3 more yrs of this, thanks theo "
bosoxyazcelticspatriots: "This dude has been great in the post season but a wuss during the season. "
so take yer :rolleyes: and shove it up yer arse
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JD Drew here in Boston. He is a fine player, but most fans here hate him.
I don't think they hate Drew personally, they didn't like the signing. Boston went from one injury prone RF'er to another.
He's a good player that came with high expectations.
He's been the next big thing since he came up, but never reached the projections.
