According to MLB.com a deal appears imment. I wish he had never left honestly.
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According to MLB.com a deal appears imment. I wish he had never left honestly.
yeah if you follow the Mariners at all after Abreu was pretty much out of our reach it came down to Garret Anderson or Griffey. I would rather not have him, but oh well.
The thing I'm afraid of is watching him well past his prime and in the decline won't be fun and I really hope that this won't be a case where you wonder why he even came back. I also don't want their to be any drama because he still is a prima donna.
As long as he knows he's going to be a DH, only see right handed pitchers, and if we're somehow in contention, and he's hitting for what he's projected to hit, he needs to be benched for someone like Clement. If he really has no problem with all of those then I have no problem signing him.
Oh, I'm also not looking forward to all the reports in the news and such about Griffey and how he's wiser and smarter and brings leadership this team needs, etc...
Cool, I like Griffey. I hope he has a good season
I like Ken Griffey a lot. He is probably my favorite all-time player. I think he still has a few good 15-20 homer seasons left in him, and I think he'll perform well for Seattle.
As long as he's kept away from lefties, he'll be a solid run producer.
Earlier in his career he hit lefties as good as righties but now no.
I think this is amazing, Being a life long Mariner fan this is what I want to see, Griffey to retire as a Mariner. I think I expect him to hit around .260/.330/.800 which are actually almost too good for him. I hope that since he is back, and he will be the fan favorite again, something will come out of him, hopefully it is his fire.
.800 slugging percent?Quote:
Originally Posted by boomboom
Griffey has been abysmal against lefties for the last 3 years. Vs. righties though, he's been as good as the average DH or better:
2006: .278/.346/.523
2007: .300/.402/.540
2008: .272/.379/.462
If he's platooned, he's a valuable DH.
Sorry, I wrote it as AVG/OBP/OPS
That's kinda what I figured, just clarifying though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by boomboom
Exactly I agree with you guys. He has to be platooned, but I think the biggest issue with signing him is giving PA's to the younger guys.
I think he's just what the Mariners need, after the season they just had.
only about a decade too late
Along with Washburn, Silva, Johjima, Batista, Bedard all bouncing back to at least a decent season or returning 100% from injury problems last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by michaelg123789
Clement, Balentien, Gutierrez, Aaradsma, Felix (to a lesser extent), Cedeno, Morrow, and anybody else I'm missing all need to make significant progress to get this team to where it needs to be. You could probably throw Lopez and Yuni in their as well since both have the possibility of being in our future but are both big question marks moving forward.
I really think the key to the Mariners this year lies with Clement, Gutierrez, Felix/Bedard/Morrow and somewhat Balentien. All of these guys have high expectations but have yet to put it all together or have injury problems. This team could potentially compete in a weak AL West this year if they get a strong year out of a few of their guys.
Great point, especially considering the M's have employed Jose Vidro and Carl Everett as the primary DH the past three years.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Read that again so it sinks in. Jose Vidro and Carl Everett as the primary DH the past three years.
As an M's fan, I'll take Griffey against RHPs gladly.
Let's just pray he doesn't flop. Please!
Guys, Griffey will have a standing ovation every single time he comes to the plate this year. It would be neat if on opening day he would trot out to center field. I think with the fans behind him, one last fire will errupt in Griffey. I can only dream of him beating Bonds' record.
I feel like a little kid again. Griffey was by far my favorite player when I was young. I always felt like when he was on the field, it was him verses little leaguers. He made it look so easy.
the sweetes mot effortless swing I ever remember.... God Baseball needs players like him... just PURE tallent
Reports are that this was just rumors and that Griffey isn't close to signing.
What I heard on 950 KJR, is that Griffey is saying that he doesn't know anything about it, but his agent is talking with the Mariners, really nothing has changed. Griffey doesn't have the time to do a physical yet because of prior engagements (golfing tournment)
I think it would be kinda neat to see him to go back to Seattle to finish.
In a way it would be sad because he doesn't have many chances left at a ring and going to Seattle is about the worst place he could go for that.
True, but the fact is nobody else has any need for him, or at least not more than the Mariners sadly. Seattle will sign either GA or Griffey and given the 2 choices it seems logical that Griffey would be their #1 choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
he was good when he was juicing prior to the injuries.
Random, unfounded accusations sure are fun :rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
very true....i do it on purpose when a griffey conversation starts because I know way too many griffey fans who throw accusations and condemn players like Bonds, Clemens, and the like yet refuse to even consider the possibility Griffey may have juiced. There is more circumstantial evidence against Griffey in fact than many players. Griffey & Bonds are said to be close (related in fact if i'm not mistaken) and have discussed roids after McGwires big year.Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
I'm just a Griffey hater, mainly because I hate how the media built him up as an untouchable god while destroying Bonds ever before the roids issue even surfaced.
Fair enough, I s'pose.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
Bonds and Griffey are not related, if that is true, than that is news to me, do you have a link about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
As for Bonds and Griffey, the only thing they have in common is that Bonds ruled the NL, and Griffey ruled the AL. Both were different types of players when they first came out. As Griffey got older, his line drives turned into home runs. When Griffey was younger he would hate to be called a home run hitter, he was strictly a line drive hitter. The only other thing they have in common is that their dads played in the MLB.
What is said to have happened in 1997-99 was Bonds and Griffey had a conversation and Bonds said that he was about to try these steroids. Griffey declined and the rest is history. Griffey was the best player in the 90's and by far the most popular player in the 90's. Bonds is probably the best hitter of all time with his 2001-2004 peak. The one thing that Bonds always did better than Griffey was Bonds has a great eye and has consistently put up better numbers than Griffey in terms of OBP and OPS, and of course several other stats, Griffey hit home homeruns by age then Bonds...until the Cinci years.
Saying Griffey did steroids is nonsense but saying he was part of the Steriod Era isn't. IF there is proof then I said castrate him, but since there isn't then he is innocent until proven guilty. When Griffey played in Seattle he was an ass to the fans, media and ownership, he was a prema-donna. The kid played the game right, if you like that or not, then that is your problem.
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
I love how this supposed "conversation" that they had about steroids seems to be common knowledge to everybody, even though they were not there to witness the conversation.
I second your confusionQuote:
Originally Posted by boomboom
That is true, I am not sure who either knows the story or made up the story first.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
While the media did no doubt build Junior up, I'm not sure that they can really have been said to have "destroyed" Bonds. Yeah, even before the steroids issue came up, a lot of people didn't like him, and some of that was fueld by the way the media portrayed him, but saying that he was destroyed by the media implies that he was targeted for unfair coveage. I don't really see that--if any play at the time was being targeted, I'd say it was Albert Belle.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
Well, you gotta admit, it did put life back into the thread ! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
that says it all right there. why the media can't just "report" and instead needs to build heroes and villains is beyond me.Quote:
a lot of people didn't like him, and some of that was fueld by the way the media portrayed him
He is just as innocent and/or guilty as everyone else who played in the era, of which many are often unfairly criticised and labelled as questionable roid users. For some reason however its viewed as blasphemy by many to put Griffey in the same pool as they put so many others in.Quote:
Saying Griffey did steroids is nonsense but saying he was part of the Steriod Era isn't. IF there is proof then I said castrate him, but since there isn't then he is innocent until proven guilty.
Exactly why I dislike him. Regardless of anything he did, for some reason he remained a media darling as if his sh!t didn't stink. I think you exaggerate somewhat him being an ass..thats kind of strong seeing as the media loved him because I suppose he was "accessible".Quote:
When Griffey played in Seattle he was an ass to the fans, media and ownership, he was a prema-donna.
I just don't like double standards.....and with Griffey/Bonds more than any it was clear to be one. Bonds was also an "ass to the fans, media, ownership...but he was "inaccessible" and for that was castrated by the media long before the steroid issue. The media shouldn't build heroes and villains.
I agree with dickay!
The Braves are apparently making a run at Griffey.
I had a dream when i was 10 that Griffey some day would win the world series as a member of the Braves. I also had another one with him as an Oirole.
I hope the Braves get him tbh >.> I would rather not have GA OR Griffey this year, it really doesn't make our team that much better imo.
I also wonder what they're going to do with him. No matter where he starts, his defense will negate a HUGE chunk of any offense he provides. He's going to be like Ibanez IMO, on the decline, horrible fielder with pretty good offense. Well...maybe not "pretty good" offense, but you get what I mean.
Strong side of a platoon at DH would make valuable use of his skills (which are basically limited to hitting righties).