How do you play 10 years, get 559 at bats, and hit only .161 with 6 homers and 44 RBIs? Especially third baseman?!
Ah John Vukovich. Who remembers that famous game in 1975 where he was pinch hit for in the first inning?
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How do you play 10 years, get 559 at bats, and hit only .161 with 6 homers and 44 RBIs? Especially third baseman?!
Ah John Vukovich. Who remembers that famous game in 1975 where he was pinch hit for in the first inning?
Tommy Thevenow and Duane Kuiper, if we're talking about HR.
A first round pick too. Just shows how much the draft matters not in Baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5dodgers5
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I'll second Duane Kuiper. He was an average fielder at best and oh, how painful was it to watch that guy at the plate. I felt sorry for the Indians, and couldn't believe he actually stuck with the Giants after that. I looked up his stats and they weren't bad, surprisingly...he was apparently on the downside of his career at that point, and was good for mostly hitting into double plays, which he did with some regularity.
The worst downside I've ever witnessed for a career was Paul Blair. What a great player...and by the end, I was praying he'd hang up his spikes.
Now the worst hitter bar none I ever saw was Mark Belanger, but no way does he make this list. Yeah, I'm biased, because Mark was my hero growing up, but I saw them both play, and I'd stack up Mark Belanger against Ozzie Smith any day of the week (in the field, mind you).
As for pitchers, I did a bit of digging for a name I remembered and found Randy Nosek. He was a prospect for the Tigers. I remember the O's in Detroit when the announcers were doing the warm-up talks about the players - you know the drill, "Well, Smith's playing with a hamstring pull he sustained in Seattle..." and so forth. I think it was Mel Proctor who started off, and went to hand off to the usually very deferential color guy, Brooks Robinson.
Mel: "...and starting tonight for the Tigers, a rookie, just up with the club, Randy Nosek. What do we know about Nosek, Brooks?"
Brooks: (a pause) "I don't know. I was watching him warm up, and I haven't seen a strike yet."
Mel: (taken a bit off-guard) "Well, ah...the reports here mention he's a slider type of pitcher..."
Brooks: (still incredulous) "We're gonna cream this guy."
What followed was some truly discombobulated pitching. What few pitches did get over came in wrapped and ready for air mail. Guys like Craig Worthington were bashing the heck out of him. Good game, though. :)
Noseks Numbers:
1989 0-2 13.50 ERA 5.1 IP 10 BB 4 K
1990 0-1 7.71 ERA 7.0 IP 9 BB 3 K
lol
Bergen played in over 900 games (over 11 seasons), had over 3,000 ABs and amassed an incredible .170/.194/.201 line with 2 HRs, no more than 36 RBIs in any season, and a career OPS+ of 21 (he topped 40 in OPS+ just once, at 41)
there is no way he isn't the answer to this question
John Gochnaur SS deserves some honorable mention here. In 1903 he made lol, 98 Errors in 134 games for a fielding % of .869. He carried a horrible stick as well batting .185 in 438 AB. Whats sad he was along side of Nap Lojoie. Can you imagine how bent Nap was every time he f'd up?
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Originally Posted by ragecage
I retract my vote for Bergen
ironically in one dynasty i started with the Brooklyn team. He won a gold glove. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
That was only one season. Bergen did it for much longer!Quote:
Originally Posted by etothep
Plus, that seems like an astonishing number to us now but errors were much more common back then. His .869 fielding percentage was in a season where the average was .913, and his only other season wasn't bad at all (well, yes, it was, because his bat sucked, but I mean from a fielding percentage standpoint).
If we keep going on like this, we can eventually have an all-dud team. :)
Oh and just to point out, he holds the record for most errors in a game at 5. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Could not find home plate with a road map and a compass!Quote:
Originally Posted by ragecage
Alll too many of the players who have been mentioned in this thread are guys who had top-flight defensive skills. A player like that isn't useless, as long as you keep him in a limited role--late inning defensive replacement, mostly.
Modern era is Pavano based on pay. And to think he got another good contract out of it. For shame.