By now i'm sure all of you have heard the exerpts...Torre's book outing a number of players and incidents either directly or through Verducci.
Was he out of line, is this kind of stuff supposed to remain behind closed doors?
Printable View
By now i'm sure all of you have heard the exerpts...Torre's book outing a number of players and incidents either directly or through Verducci.
Was he out of line, is this kind of stuff supposed to remain behind closed doors?
I'm going to reserve judgment until I get around to actually reading it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
Everything I've heard about it on the radio strongly suggests that the material sounds a lot less verboten if you read it in context, as it's written.
Supposedly, it sounds a lot more sleazy when taken as sound bites, or short excerpts.
Kinda like Game of Shadows, I guess. That book had a reputation as sort of "piling onto" Bonds, but when you actually read it, it's not that Bonds-centric.
Same.Quote:
Originally Posted by StreetMedic
I voted other. I don't think he's "out of line"....My "issue" with it is what I posted in another thread. I just don't understand why he would choose to write it at this point in time. It seems like a stupid PR move. If I was him, I'd have waited til I was retired to do it.
No you didn't vote other. There are no "other" votes as of right now :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
:rolleyes:
A PR move??? If thats the case its the dumbest PR move of alltime. He's got nothing but bad press from it. What does he have to gain from a PR prospective by doing this?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I think Verducci came to him with the idea, and Torre said fine. I don't see why it matters when he writes it, now or after he's out of the game...and I think he felt the same.
Erik, since you have such a passion for statistics like VORP, OPS, OBP, ABC, and LMNOP%, I thought I would let you know that you are the all-time leader in posts that contain nothing more than an emoticon with 37!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
:D
That's exactly what I said. In terms of PR, it was an incredibly dumb move.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
Mostly because he is still interacting with people in the game, so anything that might tarnish your reputation is probably best left until you're out of the game.Quote:
I think Verducci came to him with the idea, and Torre said fine. I don't see why it matters when he writes it, now or after he's out of the game...and I think he felt the same.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
echo echoQuote:
Originally Posted by dickay
:D
got ya....i took from it initially that you were saying it was done as a PR move. if that was his reasoning, it was completely dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Aso for how its effected his PR, I really don't think he cares about that.
That's what my point is. I don't understand why, considering he's still in the game, so his reputation is going to affect how players view him, relationships with other front offices, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by StreetMedic
My copy is on order and I hope to have it in a couple weeks.
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Tom Verducci said on WEEI today that he actually started this project with Torre while he was still with the Yankees.
That's even more baffling.
Yeh, I thought so, too (again, without having yet read the book). I specifically posted that point for your benefit, HGM.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
In the interview, Verducci addresses things like the timing of the book, and airing of dirty laundry. It just ended a few minutes ago. Usually 'EEI gets around to posting them on their site (as streaming or MP3) pretty quickly (by the next day, at the latest).
I'll throw up a link if it shows up today (and I happen to catch it), in case anyone's interested.
Edit
Here it is, streaming: Verducci
Or, the MP3 is here.
He can say what he wants...
I think that "both" is the answer. He can say what he wants to, but I also think that he violated a trust.