Official: Who Should Be The #1 Pick In The NFL Draft THREAD.

I would love to see them let him going thinking he has nothing left...only for him to run all over the chargers to keep them out of the playoffs. It may be cruel but sometimes I just want to see an athlete show a team they shouldnt have gotten rid of him and that he does have some left in the tank.

I have another interesting draft scenario. If youre the defending super bowl champion steelers or even the runner up cardinals....who do you want to draft? and if they arent available that late who do you end up drafting.

You guys really see the texans taking a qb in the first round?
No confidence in a 27 year old QB they traded for who was, by any way you choose to meaasure QB success, better than at least half the other QBs in the NFL last year?

No I do not. I see them adding to the o-line, grabbing a defensive back or a another explosive WR to line up on the other side of Johnson.

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Originally Posted by etothep

You guys really see the texans taking a qb in the first round?
No confidence in a 27 year old QB they traded for who was, by any way you choose to meaasure QB success, better than at least half the other QBs in the NFL last year?

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Shaub is terrible.

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Originally Posted by LilBates

No I do not. I see them adding to the o-line, grabbing a defensive back or a another explosive WR to line up on the other side of Johnson.

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Guess I read too much into:

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I think Josh Freeman to the Texans might actually work out. He has a cannon of an arm and if he can put it up there to Andre Johnson...that could be dangerous.

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:p

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Originally Posted by DarthJaker

Shaub is terrible.

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Schaub's ranks last year:
DYAR - 12th
YAR - 16th
DVOA - 7th
QB Rating - 7th
Yard per Attempt - 2nd
Completion % - 4th

Need more?


For comparison, Cassell's ranks in these categories:
DYAR - 17th
YAR - 12th
DVOA - 20th
QB Rating - 10th
Yards per Attempt - 15th
Completion % - 11th

No. You read exactly what I meant. In my opinion I dont think they will go that route. But I believe if they were to draft a quarterback he would work out for them, not necessarily this year. But then again QB is probably the hardest position to draft.

If nothing else they need another QB, maybe in the late rounds, to back him up. Because Sage didnt do that great when Schaub was injured.

I have no issue with them taking a flyer in the 4th or later, but them wasting a first or even a second on a qb just isn't in the realm of reality

Jaker what's your reasoning with the Broncos wasting their first round pick on an RB when they had one of the worst defenses in the league?

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

Jaker what's your reasoning with the Broncos wasting their first round pick on an RB when they had one of the worst defenses in the league?

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Plus the Broncos cut half their defensive starters from this past year

Heck, in the past they could just put etothep in at rb and he would get some good yardage. They have a could offense and with an offensive minded coach coming in, I think they dont really need to draft any offensive players at all. Unless they plan on drafting a RB and trading him.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

The Lions need to get a stable pick like Eugene Monroe T or Jason Smith T. This team is so bad, drafting a QB isnt going to help them at all. They need to start with the foundation of the team which is Offensive or Defensive line.

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Agreed! Unfortunately, this idea makes sense, so Detroit will never do it.

As for the other teams...no way in Hell Houston is drafting a QB in Round One. They'll go grab a better backup, but Schaub's played well, and they're a solid enough team that blowing it all up to start again makes no damn sense. It's going to be a DB to play opposite Dunta, or an OLB if someone's worth taking when they're up. Actually, another offensive lineman wouldn't be an insane choice, either.

Denver actually COULD use a back, but I think they'll wait and try and beef up the defense first.

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Originally Posted by etothep

Plus the Broncos cut half their defensive starters from this past year

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Well they didn't do a very good job :p

They need lineman. The lineman they had were way way too small and they need some big lineman who will go in and force sacks.

I'm excited for Mike Nolan and the 3-4 though, I think he will do great things in Denver.


Honestly, the "amoeba" offense that McDaniels is bringing in probably won't need too much of a running attack. Cutler, Marshall, Royal and the TE crew of Graham and Scheffler should make a great attack on their own like they did this year with a 1-2 punch of a fast running back and Peyton Hillis who really impressed me last year.

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Originally Posted by DarthJaker

Top 10 (Predicted by me)
1. Matthew Stafford QB, Georgia (Lions)
2. Jason Smith OT, Baylor (Rams)
3. Aaron Curry OLB, Wake Forest (Chiefs)
4. Michael Crabtree WR, Texas Tech (Seahawks)
5. Malcolm Jenkins CB, Ohio State (Browns)
6. B.J. Raji DT, Boston College (Bengels)
7. Vontae Davis CB, Illinois (Raiders)
8. Jeremy Maclin WR, Missouri (Jaguars)
9. Andre Smith OT, Alabama (Packers)
10. Rey Maualuga ILB, USC (49ers)

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Man, I hate Rey going to the 49ers (I don't want to root for them). With all the other quarterbacks not looking good at all (especially Sanchez) Stafford would be the safest pick as far as qb's go. But I just don't see him being able to pick that team up. I think Andre Smith signed his ticket out of the top 10/15 with his disappearing act.
It's going to be interesting, seeing how many of the guys coming out early (Greene, Sanchez, Harvin) didn't wow anyone at the combines.

Don't the Broncos have that young guy Torain at RB. I don't think they will draft a RB

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Originally Posted by 5DiMaggio

Don't the Broncos have that young guy Torain at RB. I don't think they will draft a RB

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Not sure how he's doing in his rehab from tearing his acl. Plus it was shanahan who was big on him

Running Backs

* 30 Cory Boyd (Age: 23)
* 22 Peyton Hillis RB/FB (Age: 23)
* 46 Spencer Larsen FB/ILB (Age: 24)
* 38 Andrew Pinnock FB (Age: 28)
* 42 Ryan Torain (Age: 22)
* 35 Selvin Young (Age: 25)

reflections, from what I hear Sanchez gained a lot of rep from his performance at the combine throwing and running the 40 and could be neck and neck with Stafford all the way until draft day.

Pat White also ran a 4.55.

Love Shanahan or hate him he knew running backs, eto. He couldn't find a defensive player to save his life but running backs he was pretty decent (Davis is a big one. Clinton Portis, Mike Anderson). So Torain, pending his rehab should be alright.

Young will also be battling and I think Hillis has a legit shot...its becoming a 2 back league and I think a mix of speed and Hillis could be good for the Broncos.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

reflections, from what I hear Sanchez gained a lot of rep from his performance at the combine throwing and running the 40 and could be neck and neck with Stafford all the way until draft day.

Pat White also ran a 4.55.

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I heard Sanchez was ugly & will be lucky to be selected before 17 now

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Sanchez struggled most of the day and may have pushed himself out of the draft's first 10 selections. He was accurate throwing between the numbers, but Sanchez sprayed the outs and was very inaccurate with his deep outs. Most worrisome is Sanchez showed marginal arm strength and on a number of occasions receivers were slowing up in their deep patterns as his passes were underthrown.

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Originally Posted by etothep

I heard Sanchez was ugly & will be lucky to be selected before 17 now

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Hmm, McShay said his stock was rising from his workouts today but I guess SI saw it different.

I didn't see him going #1 I thought Stafford was better plus I started to get on the Stafford wagon when the only defense for Sanchez Bill Plaschke could muster on ATH was "he's got swagger".

Not that ol Bill is a smart man, he's actually one of the worst imo but come on. Swagger? Thats all you got?

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

Hmm, McShay said his stock was rising from his workouts today but I guess SI saw it different.

I didn't see him going #1 I thought Stafford was better plus I started to get on the Stafford wagon when the only defense for Sanchez Bill Plaschke could muster on ATH was "he's got swagger".

Not that ol Bill is a smart man, he's actually one of the worst imo but come on. Swagger? Thats all you got?

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But you cannot argue with the big argyle! Thats unheard of! :p

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

reflections, from what I hear Sanchez gained a lot of rep from his performance at the combine throwing and running the 40 and could be neck and neck with Stafford all the way until draft day.

Pat White also ran a 4.55.

Love Shanahan or hate him he knew running backs, eto. He couldn't find a defensive player to save his life but running backs he was pretty decent (Davis is a big one. Clinton Portis, Mike Anderson). So Torain, pending his rehab should be alright.

Young will also be battling and I think Hillis has a legit shot...its becoming a 2 back league and I think a mix of speed and Hillis could be good for the Broncos.

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Well, not sure where you heard that about Sanchez. Here is what I read from
Tony Pauline
Mark Sanchez/QB/USC: Sanchez struggled most of the day and may have pushed himself out of the draft's first 10 selections. He was accurate throwing between the numbers, but Sanchez sprayed the outs and was very inaccurate with his deep outs. Most worrisome is Sanchez showed marginal arm strength and on a number of occasions receivers were slowing up in their deep patterns as his passes were underthrown.
and from Don Banks
-- Southern Cal's Sanchez did nothing to make anyone believe he's top 10 material at this point. He struggled quite a bit on passes he threw outside the numbers, near the sidelines, and only looked great on slant patterns. I expect any potential chatter about Sanchez being a real option for the Lions at No. 1 to all but evaporate unless he has a boffo pro day workout next month.

Sounds like he has not much arm strength and missed on some passes...Plus the experience thing is going to bit him big time, unless he just lights it up at his pro day.

Wow.
Just heard the McShay bit. I wonder which combine he was watching, saying that Sanchez was very accurate and peppering the ball all over the field. lol

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Originally Posted by reflections

Wow.
Just heard the McShay bit. I wonder which combine he was watching, saying that Sanchez was very accurate and peppering the ball all over the field. lol

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lol ESPN probably paid him to say that so he could add drama to the next couple of months.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

lol ESPN probably paid him to say that so he could add drama to the next couple of months.

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He did say Sanchez had quick feet and a quick release, which I would agree to. But he doesn't have great arm strength. Many times this year, I had to watch USC receivers basically stop and let the ball catch up to them.
Now Pat White had a great combine.

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Originally Posted by reflections

He did say Sanchez had quick feet and a quick release, which I would agree to. But he doesn't have great arm strength. Many times this year, I had to watch USC receivers basically stop and let the ball catch up to them.
Now Pat White had a great combine.

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That's what I heard too. He ran a 4.55 which is great speed for a QB.

He could be a good pickup and possible sleeper.

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Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989

That's what I heard too. He ran a 4.55 which is great speed for a QB.

He could be a good pickup and possible sleeper.

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Definitely, I just don't see him as a first rounder. He needs a few years to get into a good system and then take over.

I kind of see Pat White being a lot like Mike Vick...except better at throwing and worse at dog fighting

Ive read some Matt Schaub talk in here, and it looks like they may have to draft a later round QB as the Vikings are trying to acquire Sage Rosenfels from them. I feel bad for the Vikes, you have to have a pretty shitty QB to think about Sage as your future.

They definitely will have to draft another one if they ship Sage off. Other than Schaub the only other QB on their roster is Alex Brink (Age: 23, College: Washington State, NFL Draft: 2008 / Round: 7 / Pick: 223) I think if they can get a Vet to hold the position for a year or two, the vikes will have a dangerous weapon in Jackson. Sage has the same problems the Vikes have with Jackson. With a ferocious defense, and Adrian Peterson in the backfield, all they need is a game manager...the Chad Pennington/Kerry Collins type of QB

Yeah, im wondering why they are not pursuing Jeff Garcia. He is a little bit injury prone, but he is a great game manager and he would be a great short term investment. He would also fit in well with Childress offense. Im wondering why other teams are not making a bid for Garcia as well, theres a lot of teams with big holes at QB.

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Originally Posted by ragecage

Yeah, im wondering why they are not pursuing Jeff Garcia. He is a little bit injury prone, but he is a great game manager and he would be a great short term investment. He would also fit in well with Childress offense. Im wondering why other teams are not making a bid for Garcia as well, theres a lot of teams with big holes at QB.

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He would be a good fit for the Vikings. Any team that wants to put the ball downfield, though...not so much.

USC's kicker supposedly outbenches some of the top o-linemen & LBs (25 reps of 225)

Andre Smith now being talked about as a second day draft pick after a rough showing at his Pro Day

Wow. That's a steep fall.

The link for anyone interested

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Originally Posted by etothep

USC's kicker supposedly outbenches some of the top o-linemen & LBs (25 reps of 225)

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Yeah, but he came in as a linebacker and only really took over after Danelo passed away.

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Originally Posted by etothep

Andre Smith now being talked about as a second day draft pick after a rough showing at his Pro Day

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Apparently his physique and conditioning are about as impressive as his common sense.

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Apparently his physique and conditioning are about as impressive as his common sense.

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I want to make fun, but for some reason I feel a bit more sad. When a athlete that basically has basically fame and fortune in front of him, seems to be completely throwing it away before even getting there. I wonder if he is mentally able to stand a place like the NFL.. I remember the Underwood guy, getting chance after chance and almost killing himself. Being a Raider fan, I also remember Barret Robbins, basically having a complete mental breakdown the day before the Super Bowl.
Someone who isn't a leech, needs to step in for this kid and help him.