Torre trashes Yanks

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01252009...zos_151965.htm

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Scorned skipper Joe Torre is blasting the Yankees - calling many of his former players prima donnas, confessing he stopped trusting the powers that be years before he left the team and charging that general manager Brian Cashman betrayed him.

In an explosive new book called "The Yankee Years," Torre gets most personal in his attacks against Alex Rodriguez, who he says was called "A-Fraud" by his teammates after he developed a "Single White Female"-like obsession with team captain Derek Jeter and asked for a personal clubhouse assistant to run errands for him.

The book also reveals that, during spring training in 1999, team doctors revealed to owner George Steinbrenner that Torre had prostate cancer - even before informing the manager himself.

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Originally Posted by filihok

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01252009...zos_151965.htm

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I love yankee drama.:p

Some of the Yankees were prima donnas? The YANKEES? Are you kidding me?

"Torre spent years trying to bring out a winning performance from A-Rod, the highest-paid player in baseball, which from all reported accounts included a lot of hand-holding and battling the insecurities and demons Rodriguez struggles with."

didn't Arod win two MVP's under Torre?? isn't that a winning performance?

I'm glad at least somebody (the former manager of all people) is defending A-Rod. He gets unnecessary negative criticism all the time even though he is a great player. I feel like since he's better than Jeter in nearly every aspect of the game, Yankee fans love to hate him.

Or is he defending him? It doesn't clearly state. Seems like he's attacking him more than defending, lol.

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Originally Posted by bucher34

I'm glad at least somebody (the former manager of all people) is defending A-Rod. He gets unnecessary negative criticism all the time even though he is a great player. I feel like since he's better than Jeter in nearly every aspect of the game, Yankee fans love to hate him.

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Well, I wouldn't exactly call this "defending A-Rod":

In an explosive new book called "The Yankee Years," Torre gets most personal in his attacks against Alex Rodriguez, who he says was called "A-Fraud" by his teammates after he developed a "Single White Female"-like obsession with team captain Derek Jeter and asked for a personal clubhouse assistant to run errands for him.

It does clearly indicate his intent.

Lambasting A-Rod, maybe.

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Originally Posted by dickay

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I love yankee drama.:p

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The bookstore in two hours?..."I am so there."

EDIT:"The 477-page tell-all, which The Post purchased from a city bookstore last week, is written by co-author Tom Verducci, a longtime Sports Illustrated reporter. "

Hmmm...ESPN says it won't be released until Feb.3

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Originally Posted by Swampdog

Well, I wouldn't exactly call this "defending A-Rod":

In an explosive new book called "The Yankee Years," Torre gets most personal in his attacks against Alex Rodriguez, who he says was called "A-Fraud" by his teammates after he developed a "Single White Female"-like obsession with team captain Derek Jeter and asked for a personal clubhouse assistant to run errands for him.

It does clearly indicate his intent.

Lambasting A-Rod, maybe.

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Yeah, I see what you're saying. I corrected myself after looking at it again.

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Originally Posted by bucher34

... is defending A-Rod. He gets unnecessary negative criticism all the time even though he is a great player. I feel like since he's better than Jeter in nearly every aspect of the game, Yankee fans love to hate him.

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I do agree with this. When the Red Sox traded for A-Rod in 2003, I was ecstatic. Obtaining Rodriguez, a gold glove winning SS, for Manny Ramirez, a butcher in LF seemed too good to be true. As it turned out, it was.

A-Rod has been a brilliant baseball player. Much better than Jeter or Ramirez, when you add everything up. He does things off the field, occasionally, that invite criticism, of course. It seems that the NY fans do not appreciate what a fine talent he really is.

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Originally Posted by Swampdog

I do agree with this. When the Red Sox traded for A-Rod in 2003, I was ecstatic. Obtaining Rodriguez, a gold glove winning SS, for Manny Ramirez, a butcher in LF seemed too good to be true. As it turned out, it was.

A-Rod has been a brilliant baseball player. Much better than Jeter or Ramirez, when you add everything up. He does things off the field, occasionally, that invite criticism, of course. It seems that the NY fans do not appreciate what a fine talent he really is.

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Ya think? New York fans will talk trash about Boston 'driving the greatest right-handed batter since Hornsby' out of town....when arguably*, they have a better hitter in their own stinking line-up!

*Arguably, mind you.

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Originally Posted by Wassit3

didn't Arod win two MVP's under Torre?? isn't that a winning performance?

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There's never any room for facts when discussing Alex Rodriguez's performance

LOL at this comment from Baseball Think Factory:

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Originally Posted by Dan The Mediocre

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Torre spent years trying to bring out a winning performance from A-Rod, the highest-paid player in baseball, which from all reported accounts included a lot of hand-holding and battling the insecurities and demons Rodriguez struggles with.

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A 160 OPS+ from a 3B isn't a winning performance? Maybe one reason the Yankees never won a World Series is that Torre was spending his time trying to improve the performance of someone who didn't need it while ignoring those that did.

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Torre spent years trying to bring out a winning performance from A-Rod, the highest-paid player in baseball, which from all reported accounts included a lot of hand-holding and battling the insecurities and demons Rodriguez struggles with.

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I'd wait to read the book before judging how much of any of this Torre actually did say. Until then, it's the NY Post's description, and they've sold a lot of papers in recent years by sensationalizing anything A-Rod related.

Fair point

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The 477-page tell-all, which The Post purchased from a city bookstore last week

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The book's apparently out, except Amazon says its released on February 3rd.

ESPN says this, in contrast to the Post's take:

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One source familiar with the book told ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick that it's "inaccurate'' to suggest that Torre used it as a forum to get even with the Yankees or settle old scores.

The source said some of the controversial angles being reported in the New York tabloids have been taken out of context or "overblown.''

"Joe is very honest in the book,'' the source said, "but he doesn't make any personal attacks. In terms of him name-calling, that's not his style.''

The book is not a first-person tell-all, but rather, a third-person narrative by Verducci, who interviewed dozens of players and team personnel while researching for the book, the source said.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3859198

When I saw the NY Post made these statements, I pretty much could have guarenteed it was taken out of context. No surprise there.

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The book also reveals that, during spring training in 1999, team doctors revealed to owner George Steinbrenner that Torre had prostate cancer - even before informing the manager himself.

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THAT is not only horrifying, I also seriously question whether or not that's a pretty serious lapse of doctor-patient confidentiality?

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Originally Posted by JayC

I'd wait to read the book before judging how much of any of this Torre actually did say. Until then, it's the NY Post's description, and they've sold a lot of papers in recent years by sensationalizing anything A-Rod related.

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true, if A Rod said he loves children the post would probably report that Arod admits to molesting kids :mad:

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Originally Posted by Wassit3

true, if A Rod said he loves children the post would probably report that Arod admits to molesting kids :mad:

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All almost laughed up a loogie with that one!

Eh...much ado about nothing

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...from_hawa.html

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"Joe Torre called me from Hawaii not too long ago actually. I just will say, I'm glad he gave me a call," Cashman said at the Baseball Writers Association's annual dinner in midtown last night, "and I think you should wait for the book."

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