Just saw on an ESPN crawl that Mangini will NOT be returning as coach of the Jets next year. wow
Maybe the Jets can get Romeo..
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Just saw on an ESPN crawl that Mangini will NOT be returning as coach of the Jets next year. wow
Maybe the Jets can get Romeo..
lmfao...i love how Farve is being blamed for Man"Genious" being fired. Comical.
now im not a man"gina" supporter after the going for it down by 7 on YOUR OWN 20.... that sealed the deal... but 21 INT's... come on... he sure didnt helpQuote:
Originally Posted by dickay
the team won quite a few more than was expected at the beginning of the year.......but what is most being attacked is their porous defense over the past month and a half. Farve also threw for 3400 yards and 22TD, not that you only look at the negative though lol. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
I'm not saying Farve isn't a part of the team, or a reason for them not making the playoffs....but to blame him for Mangini getting the axe is far from accurate.
Yeah it was a cheap shot but the devil made me do it...Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
Though Farve's antics the past few years with the I'm retired , no i'm not, etc etc etc etc have worn a bit thin with me. It shows a 'it's all about me' mentality that seems more in keeping with T.O. than with Brett.
I agree that Favre's "Sugar Ray Leonard" impression (I retire, No I dont) got old quickly, and, for whatever reason, I lost some respect for him. He isnt the main reason that the Jets folded down the stretch, just like he wasn't the primary reason they played so well earlier in the season.
Early in the year the Jets defense was much improved. That same defense seemed to collapse down the stretch. Mangini's firing comes as no surprise to me, although I wouldn't place the blame on Favre.
It just goes to show you cannot be a gunslinger in the league and win. Especially when that gun is firing blanks because of a bad shoulder. With that said, football is a team game, it took a team effort to collapse the way they did. But they were much improved from last season, I think the fans had their expectations way too high.
yea.. 22 TD to 21 INT's... THATS a good ratio... now I knoew he wasnt going to come in the NY and become Manning/Brady with 30 TD and 15-18 INT's but come on... 1 more TD than INT... I am not placing the blame on him at all... but I dont wnat him back... at all... we can get the same from our backup.Quote:
Originally Posted by dickay
We sucked because of playcalling and poor game management...
It seamed like Man"Gina" was always tring to do something other than what the team was built for. They abandon the run WAY to often. I believe it was KC that we played agains who had given up 200+ rushing yards 3-4 games in a row... and what do we do... throw... nonstop throw... we at that point had the leading russher in the AFC... and we have Leon Washington... I mean COME ON!!! In a game later in teh season...)49'rs maybe) washington gets the ball 1 time and runs for 47 yards in the 1st or 2nd quarter) never comes near the ball again.
We have a power back, and an EXPLOSIVE back... why not use the 2 back set??? i am FAR from a coach and dont understand all the points of football but the play calling was attrocious. Farve needs not be blamed for everything but I can think of 3 occasions where he threw the ball for a pic that noone was within 10 yards of it and im not talking about BOMBS. Constantly overthrowing and underthrowing balls in the 2nd 1/2 of the season. EVERYONE is to play a part in this collaps except the RB's in my opinion.
The defense gave up and stopped, stoppig the run, That Jenkins even admitted a week or so ago he stopped playing 100% and slacked off a little. The fact that we had to go sigh Ty Law was a joke. 3-4 years from now we will be in sallary cap hell... we lose a draft pick this year... when we need all we can get DESPERATLY. Man"Gina" and his staff all have to go except the special teams coach... he stays. I want a corner and a QB this off season... and if either Brett or Man"Gina" are back next year... don't expect me to watch.
lol I predicted it 9-7
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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
The Dolphins improved much more than the Jets did, and they did it with the quarterback the Jets dumped, the much maligned Chad Pennington.
I thought it was stupid we got rid of chad. Don't get me wrong... I was not sad when we got brett because i have always loved brett... but I always loved chad... he is a qb with a GREAT head on his sholders. The speech Brett gave before the game pissed me off too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog
dont give me this crap we want to win but if we dont its ok... wtf
Eric Mangini became grossly overrated after his first season with the team, pure and simple. When he couldn't live up to that in the following years he got shown the door.
Is it just me, or do Patriots assistants seem to do very badly after they leave the Patriots?
Romeo probably shouldn't have been a head coach...he's a defensive guy who looked like he was in over his head. Mangini was only a co-ordinator for one freakin' year...hiring a guy with that little experience was just stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astrosfan183
+ Charlie Weis. He hasn't lit the world on fire, and he is going to make a ton of money because of a good first season.
Mainly because everyone want to underrate and dump on Belicheck - who should be in the converation for Coach of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astrosfan183
But Mangini is a fine coach, nothing great mind you, but he's guided this team to about what its capabilities were in each of his 3 years. Only delusional fans and hypoerbolic media thought the Jets were real contenters with Brett Favre - better than a team that started Kellen Clemens 8 times the year before sure - but not a serious contender.
Mangini's firing was brought on by unrealistic expectations, from the acquiring of brett favre, but not by Brett Favre himself - who pretty much gave the team what anyone rational person would have expected from a 40 year old Favre.
ESPN reported that Cower would not consider the Jets job unless Farve was gone? Way to manage your legacy.
I'm sticking with the coach killer charge.
Yea the more I have heard about Farve over th last week.. he seems like a real prick
+1 to me for telling people that Farve wasn't worth all the drama before the season started. Go away Brett Farve. Go away.
You wouldn't want him back? Who can you replace him with? You aren't guaranteed a free agent and if you look at all of the quarterbacks in the league he ranks in the middle of the pack probably 14 or 15 in terms of production/reliability/experience/etc. I'll take that over a Kellen Clemens or somebody worse. Kellen Clemens has hardly played in his time with NY and Favre can still get it done. You want to get rid of him for somebody worse? Eww.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
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Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
Who are you going to replace him with? He is better than half the starters in the league.
please point me in the direction of stats that verify this statement...i'd have him somewhere in the 19th-22nd range if ranking this year's qbsQuote:
Originally Posted by bucher34
Well, now we have Thomas Jones speaking out about not really being too enthused about a potential return of Favre next year (and rumblings he is merely the head of a long line of players with similar feelings). And now the Jets get to deal with the 5 month "Will he come back or not?" narcissistic drama that is a Favre offseason...enjoy that.
im going to try to avoid the subject of Favre, ive been putting up with it for the past 4 years now, ive had enough.
It was at least as much unrealistic expectations brought on by being 8-3 and beating Tennessee.Quote:
Originally Posted by gRYFYN1
If they'd lost the Titans game, and also had dropped the overtime game against New England the week before nobody would have been surprised by those two losses and the team would have been 6-5. If they then closed the season going 3-2, wrapping up with the same situation that did happen: a playoff possibility that slipped away in part because of results in the rest of the league in week 17... 9-7, just miss the playoffs, Mangini doesn't only not get fired be might get an extension.
Well, they did have Chad Pennington..but all the Jets fans hated him. You simply will never win with a QB who makes as many wild throws and has so many turnovers like Favre. He was great in his prime...he's not close to that now. Time to move on. An average QB can be found rather easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by bucher34
as a Jet fan I never hated him... It was just the injuries constantly... which were not his fauly... not liek "OMG I have a bloster" kind of stuff... I mean he brike his wrist 2 times... thats just plain bad luck. I honestly think with him on the team we would have been in the playoffs this year but its hard to tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
Keep in mind with Favre... the DB's have to stay just a little farther back to defend against the deep pass... which opens up the running game a little more. I mean HE is responsible for a little better running game as well. Also... just because Pennington doesnt have great arm strength doesn mean NEVER throw the long ball... I mean yu have to get teh DB's back at some point. I honestly think the Jets did not use Chad properly.
For 1 its not fair to him... we never had d defense this good when he played...plus he was very good at controling the tempo of the game as well... Slow it down... eat up the clock. Who do we get tho... I know everyone keeps saying get cassel... but the Pats will franchise him before that happens... the have the cap room I believe. Plus its not known if Brady will be back in time to start the season. Who else is out tere... I know we have Clemens but its not like he is the next Manning... I say try and dump him on a nobodt team if u can.. even if its a 5th round pick who cares... unfortunatly see if we can trade some of this talent we have.. not taht its a TON... but eat the next 2-3 years... bring in Cowart (if you can dump Brett) or Shanahan. I do NOT want another "new" head coach. the Jets have had I think 14 Head coaches... 11 were 1st timers... god damnit bring someone in who knows what there are doing. Id rather see the team suck for 3-4 years and know that the ownership trusts the Coach to build the team back up like the pats did, like the colts did... even better... I want an owner that trusts the HEad coach like the Titans owner trusted Fischer...
THIS is why I didn't like the Jets bringing him in. You do not bring in a HOF quarterback in the last portion of his career if you aren't ready to win it all NOW. They weren't, and now they're stuck with an unstable QB situation on a less than title-caliber team.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_r...vre-jets-owner
even though I don't think anyone actually goes to the sites I list :rolleyes:
What makes you think that...? Unless it's a crafty ploy to "shame" us into going to 'em?:D...anyway, I found this one, interesting...thank you for sharing...I mused over the hiring of a boxing trainer...was it for warfare in the trenches?...or for self-defence when one is at the bottom of a fumbled ball pile?Quote:
Originally Posted by etothep
I haven't noticed, but if you usually post them that way -- just a link with no explanation of what it is -- I probably don't. I usually don't bother without a clue as to what's there.Quote:
Originally Posted by etothep
Thanks, JayC. I wondered if it was just me, or if others took the same approach.
I rarely click on a link unless I have some idea of the subject matter. I did go to the link that etothep provided, mainly because he said what he did, and also because he continues to display that huge, gaudy trophy.
haha, only doing it to mess with rsr
Whatever the result of Monday's interview, the relationship between the Coach and College is likely to be soured, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by etothep
Aren't we going off topic?
I think this may be a sign of why O'Brien left...that & to go to a better school :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rongar