Small sample size.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
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Small sample size.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
You can say that he's BEEN BAD in the playoffs. You can't say that he WILL BE bad in the playoffs. You can't make any judgment about a player off a 30 at bat sample size. All a 30 at bat sample size will tell you is what he has done.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Not really. 0-30 stretches are far from uncommon in baseball. The postseason is only (roughly) a month long and any player could go on a huge tear in that time, just as easily as they could implode.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Sure... and if they don't it, so what? Do you think Hank or Hal care what the "average fan" thinks of them personally? Do they ever even encounter one?Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
If the average fan is furious because 2009 doesn't result in a championship, only one thing will really matter: what the team does in <i>that</i> off-season to again create an expectation for 2010.
Sure, that can't go on forever. But a championship within four or five years would probably work the long range plan well. As long as each season up to that point is competitive, fan support (with some grumbling, but again... so what?) will remain.
After all, why is the "average fan in New York" is still going to Mets games? Because they've been competitive... until the last couple of weeks anyway. :D
Derek Jeter has a reasonable career playoff sample size of 495 AB, during which he has a .309/.377/.469 line, good for an .846 OPS. His career line during the regular season? .316/.387/.458 good for an .845 OPS. I can't see the difference, can you see the difference? Yet he is fawned over and showered with nicknames like "Mr. November" and "Captain Clutch". 1 whole point of OPS. Wow!
Dont tell Jeter though, he makes the majority of his salary because of those silly nicknames and gold gloves :PQuote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
And we all know about his fielding.
no titles are won on Dec 23rd. We'll see how it pans out. As for the lineup, I've seen better.
The point of the illustration with Jeter is not completely to hack on him, it is to show that as players get closer to a reasonable sample size (and 495 AB isn't even reasonable in terms of using it to predict future performance: it's more like 1500 PA: hence the emphasis you see on stats from the previous 3 years on ESPN and other websites) the more they will fall into line with their overall regular season numbers, which are based on a little over 9000 PA in Jeter's case. Most players will never come close to the number of post season plate appearances that Jeter has. Therefore, the better predictor of future performance is the overall regular season numbers, not the playoff numbers.
That would make sense, except that ticket prices are not connected to player salaries. The opposite is somewhat true (player salaries being connected to ticket prices) in that revenue determines the salary decisions that teams will make. Based on statements that I've seen in the press and more importantly the Yankees current behavior, it appears that their organization is either comfortable with their existing revenue streams or they are comfortable with the possibility of operating at a loss for a period of time. Either way, from our perspective, the end result is that (barring unforeseen problems) it's tough to make a case that these signings are any sort of big mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
Yep, there's really no logical reason to think that anybody would be a better player in the postseason than they are at other times of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
In fact, if a player were to be consistently bringing in better numbers in the playoffs, what would that say about him other than that he was slacking off in the regular season? Why is he not doing his best all year?
To expand on this, given the higher quality of competition in the playoffs, you'd expect most players to be worse in the postseason than they are in the regular season, as there's not usually any bottom-of-the-barrel guys to feast upon.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayC
I'm sure there are players that when the light shines it's brightest they don't perform as well, but by and large the idea of good/bad postseason hitters is absurd.
This really sucks. The Yankees are terrible for baseball by spednign all this money that NO OTHER TEAM could. Sure, I understand the Burnett and CC signings, but COME ON! I found out at ESPN zone, and that was a long trip home :(
I, and many others, hope that these three big signings blow up in their faces and the Yankees Front office (especially Hank, the biggest SOB, complainer and dumbass in the major leagues) finally realize thet actually have to put some effort into winning, not just throwing half a billion dollars at the best free agents.
lol
sorry, those types of comments just make me laugh every time.
I am sick of the city of New YorkQuote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234