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"News and Current Issues"
Right now, basically every thread not about either news or some sort of political issue has been moved to OiLF. I think we should just change Ejections to News and Current Issues, add a "Music, Movies and TV" Board, and keep Out In Left Field for forum games, funny pictures/videos, and other silly things.
Or just leave it as it is, and not make more work for Dee and the mods
But threads about movies/tv/music aren't really "out in left field"Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
No
I'm a bit confused by the movies/music stuff being moved to OILF too....I thought OILF was just for the off-topic/pointless/ridiculous threads...
yea... well...
:)
:confused:
He is saying he did itQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I know that. I just would like to one exactly what is the distinction between Ejections and OILF if it wasn't what I thought it was.
As would IQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I see what you're saying, but... I don't know, Ejections started out as a politics forum. It just kind of makes sense to me, like this. We could of course move the music and whatnot threads back, but then OiLF really would be just junk...
Then we should at least change the descriptions of the threads to be clearer...Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
Then I agree with the original suggestion of the thread to change the names/descriptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
That's what I thought it was meant for...To keep the junk separated from the non-junk.Quote:
We could of course move the music and whatnot threads back, but then OiLF really would be just junk...
I'm so confused.....
Well, it is separating the junk from the non-junk threads!
:p
Seriously though... there is meaning in music and movie threads of course, but the meaning is decidedly different from politics, and religion isn't it? Do we really want a total "junk drawer" sub-forum, here?
I wouldn't mind the descriptions being changed of course (I don't really pay any attention to them anymore, anyway), and that actually probably is a good idea now regardless. That's not what metsguy was asking for in the original post, though. We don't need another sub-forum, or to rename either of the two sub-forums being discussed here.
Yes, obviously, but I had figured that Ejections was specifically for any off-topic thread WITH meaning, which would include politics, news, religion, entertainment, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
I don't know. If it means keeping the junk out of the rest of the forum, I'm fine with it.Quote:
Do we really want a total "junk drawer" sub-forum, here?
If it's going to continued to be treated as is, you're basically just recreating ejections with the coherent, intelligent discussion still being lumped together with the stupid, pointless crap, and the whole point of OiLF, originally, was to separate those two things so the good discussion wouldn't get dragged down by the stupid crap.
For example, I don't see why stuff like "Leverage" and even "Music War" are in the OiLF forum. Those are (mostly) clear, thoughtful discussions. But stuff like " Someone has waaayyyy too much time on their hands (a must see!)" and "I'm really anxious" are still in ejections. The whole point of my thread was mostly just for me to vent my stress and get some advice when people felt like giving it, and the light show one was clearly just something cool to show the other posters.
Well, I can only really speak for myself here. I'm only doing what feels "right" to me personally. If there's a clear difference of opinion between what seems natural to me and what the community as a whole wants, then of course the community "wins".
The way it is, I'm at least somewhat interested in what is posted in OiLF, though. I know that I'm getting Politics, news, religious, and other "serious" discussion in Ejections, and more lighthearted and inconsequential discussion in OiLF... it seems more natural to me this way, although now that I look at the descriptions I can see what you guys are saying. As I mentioned above, I do support changing the description of Ejections now, regardless of anything else. We should come to a clear consensus decision before recommending any change, however.
Well, discussing anything on an online discussion board is "inconsequential", but as I understood it, the whole point of OiLF, originally, was to be a "junk/other drawer" for things like forum games, funny/interesting videos, perhaps a place for people to vent, and then Ejections was for good discussion about anything (aside from sports, obviously there's already a forum for that), anything from music to politics to religion to TV to whatever.
That was my interpretation (and what I originally meant when I first suggested the "split" in the Ejections forum).Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
I do need to address this. It does take time and attention to make a decision on each individual thread. Regardless of what else may or may not happen, from here on out the threads should be more clearly differentiated between the two sub-forums. Existing threads will be hit or miss, however, simply because of the volume of threads. Now that you mention those two threads though, the next time I see them (which is probably in the next 30 seconds) I'll probably move them...Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
To me, it hardly matters, what the forums are called...as long as there's a fresh
entry in any of the following forums, I'll visit them.
The first four:
The next two:
The "Dynasty" forum
Okay this has been bugging me lately... the mods have been moving basically every non news-related thread to OiLF... I brought this up once before, but it bears repeating... I thought Out in Left Field was intended for the truly crazy/post padding threads, but now it's basically everything that's not about news or politics, which is ridiculous... I think we should set Ejections aside for rational discussion about all issues (news, politics, TV, movies, music) and set OiLF aside for forum games/ joke threads/padding threads/ threads where the discussion gets off-topic or crazy in some way
Who cares? It doesn't matter?
Well, OiLF was created so the craziness could be away from legitimate discussion. If craziness is mixed with legitimate discussion, then we're in the same spot we were before OiLF was created...Quote:
Originally Posted by twinsGM
I have to say...I agree. Either this, or the forum names and descriptions need to be changed, as per the other thread. Ejections to "News and Politics" and then OILF to "Ejections" :\
I know, I was just wondering why it matters to metsguy which forum his threads are in.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Like, for example, threads that fulfill OiLF's purpose include:
"Funny Picture Thread"
"Snow"
"What did you eat for breakfast this morning?"
Threads that are in OiLF that don't seem to fit its purpose include:
"New Tesla?"
"Anti Flag with Billy Talent"
"What are you Reading?"
"The Quality of Friendship"
I understand but like TwinsGm says who cares....what does it matter?
For the same reason that creating the OILF forum mattered in the first place - to separate the nonsense from the good discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by RickD
but why does metsguy care?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Presumably because he's a member of this forum and has opinions on the way it runs?Quote:
Originally Posted by twinsGM
In a similar vein, why was fantasy baseball moved to sports talk as opposed to the sports games?
If the games sections were moved from the basement, I'm sure more people would appropriately post their threads in that section
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
OK, instead of arguing about it, make some concrete proposals.
What goes where?
Ejections
Threads that don't belong anywhere else. (If you post something inappropriate in another forum, we will move it here).
Out In Left Field
Too weird even for Ejections. :)
More importantly, though:
You guys asked for Ejections to be broken up some, and Dee agreed to do that (heck, I did as well). In my view, that was to separate the "politics, religion" portions from "or how fat your mom is"... which is what I've been operating under, personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clay Dreslough
I'm all in favor of everyone else making these decisions on what goes where, just come to a solid consensus on what goes where. Until that happens, it's pretty much completely up to HGM and I individually.
This is a good point, though. Sorry HGM...Quote:
In a similar vein, why was fantasy baseball moved to sports talk as opposed to the sports games?
:)
I still don't get this comment though:
what "basement"? I can see it from the main index, can't the rest of you?Quote:
If the games sections were moved from the basement, I'm sure more people would appropriately post their threads in that section
:confused:
The games section is 2 pg downs for me. I mean, I'll check the basement every now and then, but I definitely will go days between seeing new posts & threads in the games sectionQuote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
Just as one example, how does music fall under "how fat your mom is"?Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
I'm still sticking with what I had originally suggested, which brought about the addition of OiLF. From Another call for a new sub-forum of Ejections:Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
Every poster on that thread simply posted a quick "Agreed." post with that original proposition. Even in the post I'm about to quote from that thread, you indicated basically the same thing as I suggested, which differs from the way you've been handling threads, in my opinion:Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
"Politics and other interests" = Ejections. "Junk" = OILF.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
And, honestly, to me, it does seem as though the consensus among posters agrees with this.
By "basement", I presume he means the bottom of the main index.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
As for the fantasy baseball threads, there's a few fantasy baseball threads in sports talk, so that's where I've kept them (and moved others that I've seen). Personally, I'd be fine myself with eliminating Sports Games all together and moving all the threads from there into the Sports Talk forum, as I think it's fine to lump them all together, especially considering the relatively little traffic Sports Games seems to receive, the relatively few "Sports Games" threads there are to begin with, and it's relatively hidden spot at the very bottom of the forum list.
Aw, c'mon ohms you have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page to see it. I come here for fun and amusement, not work. ;)
Tell ya what, move everything that you think should be in Ejections instead of OiLF into Ejections...
As for Sports Talk and Sports Games, I've moved Fantasy sports threads that I've noticed to Sports Games. I wasn't reading Sports Talk for a couple of months there, so it's conceivable that I missed quite a few of them (or, I just overlooked threads that you started yourself, HGM...). I'm all for moving Sports Games to Sports Talk if that's what everyone wants, though. Then we can ask for Sports Games to be removed, Role-Playing Games to be renamed to Other Games and moved to General Discussions area... if Dee or Clay is willing to do that. That last part is actually the key.
I'm also all for changing the descriptions for OiLF and Ejections, but we need to get things definitely straightened out first.