Ranking the top pitchers since the 1940's

This is the first time ive read this thread and basically just skimmed through the first 80 posts or so... however I dont get how so many people rank Clemens as #1 yet Bonds who also used steriods has been shunned by everyone yet people are not shunning Clemens

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Originally Posted by BBMogulLover21

This is the first time ive read this thread and basically just skimmed through the first 80 posts or so... however I dont get how so many people rank Clemens as #1 yet Bonds who also used steriods has been shunned by everyone yet people are not shunning Clemens

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I'm 99% sure that the people ranking Clemens #1 would rank Bonds just as high (of course, it depends on what the category is and who the players being ranked are).

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

I'm 99% sure that the people ranking Clemens #1 would rank Bonds just as high (of course, it depends on what the category is and who the players being ranked are).

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Javol. I would rank him among the top in many categories. Even if you take out his steriods career, he was awesome before.

he was .500 before

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

he was .500 before

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check out 89-98, Bonds was awesome. He was the best player in the Majors. Griffey was just the best in the AL.

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Originally Posted by boomboom

check out 89-98, Bonds was awesome. He was the best player in the Majors. Griffey was just the best in the AL.

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thought u ment clemens sorry :p

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Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet

thought u ment clemens sorry :p

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Clemens was awesome before steriods as well, he just had a little drop off and then started taking them.

Clemens was not ".500" before steroids, no matter where you place the beginning of his steroid use.

IMO Bonds is one of the worst hitters of all time, because he did steroids (and who knows how long he's been doing them)... also at the bottom are players like Palmeiro and McGwire...

Which, of course, is a patently ridiculous way of looking at things. Steroids don't make bad hitters into good hitters, let alone all-time greats.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Which, of course, is a patently ridiculous way of looking at things. Steroids don't make bad hitters into good hitters, let alone all-time greats.

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:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

:rolleyes:

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Oh, I forgot! You're totally right. Steroids are the reason Alex Sanchez is at the top of the all-time leaderboards in a ton of categories.

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Clemens was not ".500" before steroids, no matter where you place the beginning of his steroid use.

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yea... i dont know wWHAT the hell i was thinking thee lol

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Originally Posted by metsguy234

IMO Bonds is one of the worst hitters of all time, because he did steroids (and who knows how long he's been doing them)... also at the bottom are players like Palmeiro and McGwire...

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Originally Posted by HoustonGM

Which, of course, is a patently ridiculous way of looking at things. Steroids don't make bad hitters into good hitters, let alone all-time greats.

metsguy234 :rolleyes:

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the roll eyes mettsguy should have been after YOUR post.

moraly yes you may be correct but to make a comment like that showes for lack of a better whay to put it... how stupid you are. If you were to say something like this

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IMO Bonds is one of the worst PEOPLE of all time, in baseball because he did steroids (and who knows how long he's been doing them)... also players like Palmeiro and McGwire...

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then we would maybe agree with you... but your statements are not even wrong... they are just dumb.

its like saying the sky is gray because you are colorblind... its Not gray irs blue but YOU see it that way, doesnt mean everyone does

Metsguy, do you want Nameless Fat Guy to give you a spanking in the Adventures of RSR for not doing your Baseball research?

do i spank myself since I said Clemens was under .500???