Re: Joe Gordon only Veteran's Committee Selection
If Gordon, Then Why Not Grich?
Bobby Grich is up there with Ron Santo, Tim Raines, and Bert Blyleven in terms of HOF snubs, imo.
Re: Joe Gordon only Veteran's Committee Selection
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HoustonGM
What's your point?
Voters took in to account his broadcasting career, when they shouldn't have.
Re: Joe Gordon only Veteran's Committee Selection
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metsguy234
Voters took in to account his broadcasting career, when they shouldn't have.
Thank you for restating what you already said. Again, what is your point?
Re: Joe Gordon only Veteran's Committee Selection
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HoustonGM
Thank you for restating what you already said. Again, what is your point?
My point is he got in not by just his on the field acheivements. That proves the Yankee bias.
Re: Joe Gordon only Veteran's Committee Selection
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metsguy234
My point is he got in not by just his on the field acheivements. That proves the Yankee bias.
No, it doesn't at all. It means that the voters took into account other things besides just his on-field performance. That does not mean that there is a "Yankee bias." I don't even know how you could possibly infer that there is from that alone. Well, okay, I do, you hate Yankee everything and will scream Yankee bias at the top of your lungs despite it flying in the face of all available facts.
Re: Joe Gordon only Veteran's Committee Selection
Beautiful list right here! Missing Berra as pointed out but as to the Yankee Bias you must remember they also won 26 WS! When you are the best team in history you will have more players in the HOF.
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metsguy234
Earle Combs
1 New York
American
Bill Dickey
8 New York
American
Joe DiMaggio
5 New York
American
Whitey Ford
16 New York
American
Lou Gehrig
4 New York
American
Lefty Gomez
11 New York
American
Joe Gordon
Probably Going in as a Yankee
Waite Hoyt
19 New York
American
Miller Huggins
- New York
American
Reggie Jackson
44 New York
American
Tony Lazzeri
6 New York
American
Mickey Mantle
7 New York
American
Joe McCarthy
- New York
American
Phil Rizzuto
10 New York
American
Red Ruffing
15 New York
American
Babe Ruth
3 New York
American
Casey Stengel
37 New York
American
Lazzeri? Rizzuto? Huggins?
YANKEE BIAS
Re: Joe Gordon only Veteran's Committee Selection
I had been considering making the very point submitted by RickD. The Yankees dominated baseball for about 45 years...winning 29 pennants and 20 world series between 1920 and 1964. Pretty impressive. The Steinbrenner era (about 35 years now)hasn't been nearly as successful, thank God, but still not bad. It would figure that NY would have more players in the HOF than any other team.
Another thing.....Reggie Jackson a Yankee? Only because they honored his wishes and put a NY cap on him. Jackson spent 10 years with the A's, and only 5 with NY. A matter of perspective, I guess.
Nobody despises the Yankee franchise more than I do. But I see no particular bias towards NY players in the HOF. As stated earlier, Gordon is as deserving as many already in the Hall.
Re: Joe Gordon only Veteran's Committee Selection
Of course I am biased for the Yankees!