Re: Plaxico done for year
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Originally Posted by
Arctic Blast
I can't agree for a ban from the league for this. Look, if he HAD shot someone else, yeah, I would maybe agree with you. And if he does end up getting a mandatory prison sentence, then maybe you'd have a case (and frankly, that would probably end his career anyway). The guy's not a genius, no doubt of that, but so far as I know, he doesn't even HAVE a criminal record until this incident. He's had some team-oriented issues, but he doesn't have a prior rap sheet, and he doesn't even have a prior league conduct rap. He shouldn't be held to a lesser standard because he's an athlete, agreed...he also shouldn't be held to a HIGHER one because he's an athlete. I'm pretty sure that, given the same set of circumstances, the average human being with no priors and no prior history probably isn't going to flush their entire life away because of one incident like this one.
A. It's not his entire life being flushed away. Just his job.
B. There are plenty of other professions where ethics standards are written into your contract and if you break them, you're done.
C. Suppose Joe Schmoe is convicted of having sex with an underage girl. Suppose Joe Schmoe works at 7-11. He probably has a chance to continue working at 7-11. Suppose Joe Schmoe is a high school teacher. Probably Joe will have a hard time finding another teaching job.
Re: Plaxico done for year
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Originally Posted by
filihok
A. It's not his entire life being flushed away. Just his job.
B. There are plenty of other professions where ethics standards are written into your contract and if you break them, you're done.
C. Suppose Joe Schmoe is convicted of having sex with an underage girl. Suppose Joe Schmoe works at 7-11. He probably has a chance to continue working at 7-11. Suppose Joe Schmoe is a high school teacher. Probably Joe will have a hard time finding another teaching job.
I hate analogy's sometimes because they are so unfair. This is so different than sex with a minor...its really not worth me commenting on that any further.
All the talk about possibly hitting someone else....you can say that about anything. Fact check, ITS LEGAL TO CARRY A GUN! Of course providing you have the license to carry it, and if he had the paperwork it wouldn't have prevented this incident nor would it have prevented someone else getting hit by the stray bullet had that been the case. The gun was registered, and despite one claim on here I've heard no where that it is against team policy to carry guns. I find that hard to believe they would have such policy on off duty time. While at work, different story.
Our nations vice president SHOT SOMEONE IN THE FACE and didn't do jail time and nobody licensed in an 'accident' usually does. He was licensed in another state, and had this occurred pretty much ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY (with very few exceptions) he would plead ignorance and would not do jailtime. Many lawyers have been on radio shows saying just that all week.
The fact alcohol was involved, that may be an issue for him. Its speculation on our part to assume it was. I have no problem with the Giants terminating his contract. I have no problem with a suspension from the league, especially because of an attempted cover-up. I have no problem with the city of NY enforcing their mandatory sentence though I think its a dumb law. I have no problem if they charged him with the cover-up though I doubt they will because he's been cooperative. I see no way around the mandatory sentence, and think that will likely end his career for the most part, but whatever time he does I DO have a problem with any notion that he can't play again if he wanted to and if someone wanted him.
As for the CDL holder with the pot example. Like Plax, he has to serve the sentence that the courts determine and is set by law. It's no different than your example. Possession of a narcotic of the amount you mentioned as far as I know does not carry a permit suspension of your license. You may be terminated from your current employer, as it looks like Plax is going to be......but you can still work elsewhere once your license is renewed. In other words, you don't lose your career. Its not apples to apples.
Re: Plaxico done for year
Oh believe me Dice, any Drug stigma on your record pretty much eliminates you from driving a truck, kind of like the Scarlet Letter of Truck Drivers.
Re: Plaxico done for year
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Originally Posted by
ragecage
Oh believe me Dice, any Drug stigma on your record pretty much eliminates you from driving a truck, kind of like the Scarlet Letter of Truck Drivers.
No....USDOT & FMCSA allows for drivers to go through substance abuse programs and submit to additional testing. However and most importantly the COMPANY can refuse to hire anyone with a history and their records they obtain can go back as far as seven years if i'm not mistaken. *Most* larger companies I work with will not allow the SAP they will terminate for any positive test, but I work with many small companies, specifically home heating fuel haulers that will hire providing the proper paperwork is provided.
Re: Plaxico done for year
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Originally Posted by
dickay
No....USDOT & FMCSA allows for drivers to go through substance abuse programs and submit to additional testing. However and most importantly the COMPANY can refuse to hire anyone with a history and their records they obtain can go back as far as seven years if i'm not mistaken. *Most* larger companies I work with will not allow the SAP they will terminate for any positive test, but I work with many small companies, specifically home heating fuel haulers that will hire providing the proper paperwork is provided.
Regardless, I have nothing to worry about. But it is much more difficult to obtain a driving job if that is on your record than if it wasnt.
