It sounds like Crisp is on his way to the Kansas City Royals for Ramon Ramirez.
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It sounds like Crisp is on his way to the Kansas City Royals for Ramon Ramirez.
Nice, even trade. Benefits both teams, but I think the Red Sox got the slightly better end of the deal.
Okay trade. I like the defensive upgrade......decent OBP and decent SB threat. If our GM hadn't shown the obvious ability to find good relievers easily...I wouldn't like the deal..but DM has been absolutely golden when it comes to relievers and we have options to replace him with..we definitely sold high on him...his control is sometimes shaky, but he's definitely pretty good.
Okay trade...Boston probably gets the better end of the deal b/c they control Ramon for longer and cheaper...but I think it makes KC a better team too...so pretty much exactly what you said, Houston.
Boston is making room for $$$ to Texeria and Burnett :p
Thats
manny 20 million
coco 5.75 million
tavares ~ 4 million
and if they could dump lugo its I think 9 million
they added bay at about 5-6 million (after arbitration this year (I think))
18 to tex and 17 to Burnett (+ probably another 7-10 in arbitration and they come back MUCH stronger. and god forbid they find a way to move lowel!!!
:( I know we won this trade but still, Coco was one of my favorites, and one of the funnest players to watch.... I even named one of my cats after him
Disagree completly. I'll go on record right now and predict this guy will make Sox fans pull their hair out. Sox have a tendency to 'buy high' and see players revert to form (Lugo Drew). This guys lifetime ERA and WHIP arnt what I want to see in a reliever.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I hate this move...HATE it. Crisp was a great defensive player, could steal, provided depth in the outfield, hit over .300 after the AS break last year. Sox are trading all that for another Manny Delcarmen?
1. they will never dump lugo without eating much of the contractQuote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
2. Coco was a 'value' at 5.75 million. They still need to replace his services, and I highly doubt they will do that with a minor leaguer or trust that Jacoby will be able to do the job alone. Someone will come in likely making similar cash as coco.
I'm not sold that the Sawx got the better end. Relievers are so iffy, good one year bad the next. That aside I believe they know Coco wanted out and wanted to do right by him and an extra young talented arm in the pen is something they really needed.
Coco IMO is an underrated talent. Don't get me wrong, he's not a star...but his contract was a value. It's a trade that had to happen, and is very even.
I was in special ed :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
Id have taken him on my braves thats for sure... tho the weekness is his arm unfortunatlyQuote:
Originally Posted by dickay
I cleaned up the thread. Enough with the off-topic stuff. Save it for Ejections.
I agree with Cameron but there is an interesting add-on possible in that the trade allows Masterson to move back to the rotation which would be beneficial long term wise for the Sox & change the +/- of deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I agree that also the Sox need to find a back up OF after having dealt in the last 2+ seasons - Manny,Coco but also Moss & Murphy & losing Kotsay to FA.It isn't Van Every or Carter who will fill Coco's shoes.
Seems this deal means that Teahan or De Jesus will be moved next as the Royals now have 5 OF for 3 spots as there is already a glut at DH.
LOL....I'm on the Royals mailing list because I bought my tickets through them to see the Sox in KC...so they just sent me the news "Royals acquire Coco!"
I know! assholes.
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Originally Posted by FRENCHREDSOX
The Cubs and Royals are talking about a possible Teahen for Fontenot swap. Teahen is most likely on his way out...DDJ is unlikely to be moved.
don't forget Schilling's 8 million is off the books and Rent a Wreck might be off as well.
Rent-a-Wreck?Quote:
Originally Posted by cartman00000001
I was thinking the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG
you guys don't know???Quote:
Originally Posted by lilbman07
Edgar Renteria
I thought that's who you were referring to, but I wasn't sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by cartman00000001
He probably means Varitek, although I considered Edgar Renteria at first until I remembered he's not even on the Red Sox.
The Red Sox are still paying part of his salary, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
JD Drew?
bingo!!Quote:
Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG