This year's Hall of Fame ballot
The following players are eligible this year (although only a portion of them will be on the actual ballot):
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Harold Baines
Bert Blyleven
Andre Dawson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Dave Parker
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Rickey Henderson
Steve Avery
Jay Bell
Jason Bere
Mike Bordick
John Burkett
David Cone
Omar Daal
Ron Gant
Joe Girardi
Mark Grace
Mark Guthrie
Joey Hamilton
Bill Haselman
Darren Holmes
Trenidad Hubbard
Todd Hundley
Brian L. Hunter
Félix José
Chad Kreuter
Graeme Lloyd
Keith Lockhart
Albie Lopez
Pat Mahomes
Al Martin
Orlando Merced
Charles Nagy
Denny Neagle
Troy O'Leary
Jesse Orosco
Lance Painter
Dean Palmer
Craig Paquette
Dan Plesac
Tom Prince
Jeff Reboulet
Rick Reed
Rich Rodriguez
Terry Shumpert
Luis Sojo
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Dave Veres
Matt Walbeck
Matt Williams
Mike Williams
Kevin Young
I'd vote for Blyleven, Henderson, McGwire, Raines, and Trammell.
Of the non-Henderson first-timers, I think only David Cone and Mark Grace will get enough votes (5%) to stay on the ballot.
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Lance Painter, Jeff Reboulet, Matt Walbeck... and TRENIDAD HUBBARD! LOL
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WTF is Joe Girardi is there? Wasn't he a backup catcher for the Yankees?
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Fish Troll
WTF is Joe Girardi is there? Wasn't he a backup catcher for the Yankees?
Yes?
To be eligible for the Hall of Fame, all that is required is to have played in at least 10 years, and have been retired for 5. The actual ballot will be stripped down from that list and will be composed of the returning players from last year's ballot, plus a selection of the new eligible players that a screening committee chooses.
But really, of all the players on that list, Joe Girardi is the one that makes you say "WTF?" Not, I don't know, Trenidad Hubbard?
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Wow Girardi was a shitty player.
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gant will get a few votes too... he might get the 5% definatly not a HOF'er but he might get the 5%
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I would Elect Baines, Tommy John, Blevylen, Trammel, McGwire, and Henderson , not all on this ballot of course
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RedsoxRockies
I would Elect Baines, Tommy John, Blevylen, Trammel, McGwire, and Henderson , not all on this ballot of course
why not on this ballot??? whats the difference if its this ballot or next years...
and id give it to Henderson and maybe baines... i havent looked at their #'s in a while. Tommy MAYBE but im not sure
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TheNamelessPoet
why not on this ballot??? whats the difference if its this ballot or next years...
and id give it to Henderson and maybe baines... i havent looked at their #'s in a while. Tommy MAYBE but im not sure
Because that is too many for one ballot, at least for the BBWAA to comprehend. And Raines is basically a poorman's(But not that poor even) Henderson, and Tommy John should be in already *EDIT I Meant Raines, not Baines. Though both deserve electoin, and Baines offensive stats were simular to Henerson, just lesser, and with no speed
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Oh, and Dave Parker belongs in the HOF as well
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/parkeda01.shtml Parker had nearly 3,000 hits, over 300 homers, and won several Gold Gloves
http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/johnto01.shtml Tommy John Won 288, had a 3.34 ERA, ERA+ of 110, and threw nearly 5,000 innings
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/baineha01.shtml Had Rickey Henderson's Bat, just not his speed, had 2,866 hits and an OPS+ of 120
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/raineti01.shtml This guy was even more like Rickey Henderson, stealing 808 bases, posting a .385 OBP, and hitting 2606 hits
http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/blylebe01.shtml Blyleven had vitually the same stats as Tommy John.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/trammal01.shtml Trammell topped 2,300 hits, had some pop, and an amazing glove.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcgwima01.shtml McGwire had an OPS+ of 162, 'nuff said.
So yeah, hope this helps. These are who I feel should be elected
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RedsoxRockies
Because that is too many for one ballot, at least for the BBWAA to comprehend. And Baines is basically a poorman's(But not that poor even) Henderson, and Tommy John should be in already
Yayy...I love HOF debates. Tommy John? no.
He has a career ERA+ of only 110. He's higher up on the career BB's allowed then he is on the SO's (both in the 40's) He's 15th in Earned Runs allowed. 10th in hits allowed. And his black ink-grey ink and HOF standards are below average.
And if you say anything about his surgery i'll hit you.
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um... NO on big Mac
Tommy and Blyleven im torn on... the # is 300 for a reason... if we let in 285 wins... then 275-280's will complain and then we start getting just ok guys... the HOF is for the ELITE players, not the really good ones.
if you put Blyleven in you have to put Tony Mullane only 2 less wins but 30 less losses. There are cases when you can ignore the #'s (pedro for example) due to dominance but medeocre pitchers do not belong because they got CLOSE to the "magic" numbers. He never lead in ANYTHING. Dont get me wrong he was a good pitcher but certainly not what I would call Hall of Famer
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And if you say anything about his surgery i'll hit you.
I was waiting for that to be mentioned... my pimp hand is up as well
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TheNamelessPoet
um... NO on big Mac
Tommy and Blyleven im torn on... the # is 300 for a reason... if we let in 285 wins... then 275-280's will complain and then we start getting just ok guys... the HOF is for the ELITE players, not the really good ones.
if you put Blyleven in you have to put
Tony Mullane only 2 less wins but 30 less losses. There are cases when you can ignore the #'s (pedro for example) due to dominance but medeocre pitchers do not belong because they got CLOSE to the "magic" numbers. He never lead in ANYTHING. Dont get me wrong he was a good pitcher but certainly not what I would call Hall of Famer
Ninth alltime in shutouts, fifth...FIFTH are you kidding me? fifth in strikeouts. A miniscule career WHIP of 1.19.
W-L mean nothing in this case. Look at his time in Texas?!