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Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
Oh, ok, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
They don't need Cano, the have Kendrick, who is a good playerQuote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
And much, much cheaper still.
And potentially could be really great. I give im a ceiling around Pedrioa's level, or Aaron Hill. Those would be the two closest to him in my mindQuote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
Exactly, Kendrick hasn't reached his peak yet.
Kendrick hasn't even been a full time player yet. Besides, Cano and Kendrick could be possibly shuffled around the field, maybe with one of them playing SS. That's probably a stretch though.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
I'm partially joking though, because I've read dozens of rumors involving Cano for any slugger.
However, they do need power, and Cano is an upgrade over Kendrick.
No way. There's a huge gap between Pedroia and Hill. A huge, massive, almost infinite gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
I bet Kendrick becomes a Mark Grudzielanek type of player. He'll be better than Hill, but won't come anywhere near Pedroia, who is the best 2B in the AL.
Uh, Kendrick has all the same skill sets as Pedrioa, and has done well when playing. He likely will ot reach Pedrioa, but he may be close, at least to his Rookie YearQuote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
But that's like saying, for instance, that Matt Kemp has the same skill set as the young Barry Bonds. It's true, but it doesn't mean anything in terms of how they'll develop, and it doesn't mean Kemp is going to learn plate discipline like Bonds did and set all time records for BB and HR, or come anywhere close.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
If Kendrick was really at the talent level of Pedroia, he'd be playing over 100 games in 2007 and 2008.
I'm not saying Kendrick sucks, I'm just saying Pedroia is in a different universe, and I really doubt Kendrick becomes any better than a Grudzielanek type, as I said before. Cano would have far more value for the Angels.
There's one massive difference between the two, a difference that people often overlook when making comparisons between players. Kendrick never walks. 997 career plate appearances, 30 walks. Pedroia doesn't walk a ton, but he'll walk 50 times over a full season. Kendrick would be lucky to walk 20 times over a full season.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
30:163 BB:K ratio for Kendrick. 104:101 for Pedroia.
It may seem trivial to some, but that's a world of difference between the skill sets of the two players.
I had not seen that stat. And that is not trivial, not at all. I take that very seriously. and would definately choose a better eye. But still, Kendrick should become simular to Pedrioa in the other categoriesQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
I'm pretty sure that the Yanks would not do a Cano for Vlad deal. Sure, Vlad is the better player for the next couple of years, but Cano will challenge for batting titles for many years to come, at least IMO; I am not ready to give up on him because of 1 average year.
Plus, the Yanks are set at the corner outfield positions (LF - Damon/Matsui, RF - Nady).
Again, it's not a completely realistic trade, and I would NOT do it if I were the Yankees. But it's not that far fetched, and Cano is a name I'm reading quite a bit in the hot stove stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by koolzach1
Yanks will load up wherever they can to replace Giambi and Abreu. And Matsui should probably be DHing anyway.
Oh, I know it's a realistic trade, but I would hope that Cashman wouldn't pull the trigger on that one. From what I've heard - Cano isn't getting traded unless it's for a front of the rotation starting pitcher. I would just much rather keep Damon in LF, Nady in RF and sign a CF to a 1 year deal or trade for a decent CF with a year left on his deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
Im not really sure the two are similar, Pedrioa had a rather unusal season frm his perspective, while he still hits for average his slugging and HR totals were way up ( he hit more than 10 HRs only once in minors and had 21 hr in in 1100 PAs) as were his steal totals ( 21 @ 95% were a far cry for his 29 @ 62% in 4 previous seasons)Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
Kendrick has gone the other way (he's a 591 slugger in the minors with over 100 steal attempst in about 1600 PAs)
that in addition to the K/BB issue stated earlier.
Kendrick will be a star 2B if he stays healthy... I wouldn't exactly compare him with Pedroia, though. Kendrick still hasn't reached his potential, while Pedroia has already reached his and will likely have no where to go but down (which isn't a bad thing, considering this season was a very good one). Plus, Kendrick is almost never healthy, while Pedroia will play 150+ games a year (very tough player).
I think Howie Kendrick will hit for more power at his peak than Dustin Pedroia will/is at his.
Exactly... Dustin Pedroia is basically a David Eckstein X2. Let me point out that I said X2, meaning that I do acknowledge that he is a large step above Eckstein, but still the same body type, and skill set.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
I think if I had to make a decision over which one of them I would want over the long-term (the next 5 to 10 years), I would probably choose Kendrick. He's hit .306 at the Major League level, albeit in three shortened seasons. He's a lifetime .360(!!!) hitter in the minor leagues though, so if he improves his BB/K ratio and learns to read pitches better, maybe he could land somewhere in the middle.
Yeah, Pedroia has always been projected as a solid #2 hitter or bottom of the lineup hitter. I've heard many scouts project Kendrick as a middle of the lineup hitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP