Forgiving Buckner? - The Boston Red Sox, 1987 and beyond

After reading dynasties managed by Petrel, CatKnight, Mr. Perfect, Mizerak, and many others, I have fallen in love with the art that is Baseball Mogul Dynasty Writing. For more than a year now, I have wanted to do this, though I never have. This is partly because of time, interest in a certain year*, and the fact that I have 7 dynasties that I am currently working on for myself. However, I feel that I have what it takes to gain interest in my dynasty, keep myself interested, and maybe, just maybe, wind up in the Baseball Mogul Hall of Fame**.

* I have always had a difficult time choosing what team and year I wanted to use. My 7 dynasties range from 1901 Boston Americans to 1965 Boston Red Sox to 2007 San Francisco Giants.

** Okay, that one is unlikely. With all of the great dynasties on this forum, I'll be lucky if I receive the DHL Delivery Man of the Year Award.

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October 27, 1986
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"Behind the bag! It gets through Buckner! Here comes Knight and the Mets win it!"

Vin Scully's call can still be heard at Shea Stadium. It is Monday, October 27, 1986. Saturday night, the New York Mets overcame a 5-3 deficit by scoring 3 runs in the bottom of the tenth inning to win Game 6 of the World Series 6-5. Boston Red Sox 1B Bill Buckner is to blame, perhaps, because of an error that allowed the winning run to score. Mets OF Mookie Wilson hit an easy ground ball down the first base line, which should have ended the game... And did. However, instead of Buckner picking up the ball to tag first base, he allowed the ball to roll between his legs, scoring 3B Ray Knight from second base, in what can only be called the single biggest error in Major League History.

Three minutes after the error, and twenty-four hours before finding out that Game Seven had been postponed, Vin Scully stated that, "If one picture is worth a thousand words, then you have seen about a million words, but more than that you have seen an absolutely bizarre finish of Game Six of the 1986 World Series, the Mets are not only alive, they are well, and they will play the Red Sox in Game Seven tomorrow."

After failing to win their first World Series in 68 years Saturday night, the Red Sox will try again tonight. Will they be able to forget Saturday night's misfortunes? Can Bill Buckner move on? Tune in tonight on your local NBC station to find out.

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October 28, 1986
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The New York Mets have defeated the Boston Red Sox, 8-5, to win the 1986 World Series, 4 Games to 3. Mets Closer Jesse Orosco took the mound, replacing reliever Roger McDowell, with nobody out in the eighth to pitch two full innings, giving up no runs, no hits, no walk, striking out two (including Red Sox 2B Marty Barrett, swinging, for the final out). Mets 3B Ray Knight led off the seventh with a home run to give the Mets their first lead of the night, while OF Darryl Strawberry matched him in the eighth.

Knight was named the MVP of the 1986 World Series.

Alright, the following information is being posted to tell you what I am doing, like everyone else does.

Game: Baseball Mogul 2008 (I didn't get it this year, probably will next year. Hopefully, this doesn't make people not want to read it.)
Year: 1987
Team: Boston Red Sox
Finances and Computer GMs Difficulty: Mogul
PBP Difficulty: Mogul

Rules:

1. I will never go $5 Million over my payroll budget. Fire Sales are imminent, most likely.
2. I will never make any more than 3 trades during any calendar year.
3. I will never sign any more than 5 free agents during any calendar year.
4. I can re-sign any number of players in their contract seasons, however, I cannot exceed budget in doing so.

Goals

1. Win the World Series before 2004.
2. Attain a Mogul Rating over 100.

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Games will be done in PBP Mode, under the General Manager setting. I will post in a series-by-series format.

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I am open to suggestions, if you post any. I will consider them.

Neat idea. I look forward to seeing what happens.

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November 2, 1986
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Lou Gorman, General Manager: "Look, after the other night, we have to move him."
John McNamara, Manager: "Why? He's still productive, isn't he?"
Gorman: "Yes, he hit 18 Home Runs with 102 RBI's, with a .267 AVG. And, John, come on, he's gonna be 37 years old in December. Isn't it time to move on, anyway?"
McNamara: "I guess so. But do we have enough depth to replace that production?"
Gorman: "I think we do, but, if not, I'll find somebody. That is my job, isn't it?"
McNamara: "Yes, it is. We have Don Baylor on our bench. Would he fill in?"
Gorman: "Well, Don was statistically better this season. He hit 31 Home Runs with 94 RBIs and a .238 Batting Average. However, he is also 37."
McNamara: "So, what's your point, Lou?"
Gorman: "We need to get younger, more affordable. You know how baseball works: it's all business. Why pay a million bucks when you don't have to?"
McNamara: "That's a good point. Alright, go out, build me a team, and I'll take it from there."
Gorman: "I can do that. Goodbye."
McNamara: "Goodbye. And good luck."

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Gorman (on phone): "We need you down here. Can you be here at 2:30?"
1B Bill Buckner: "Yeah, I'll be there."

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Gorman: "Bill, how are you doing today?"
Buckner: "I'm still angry about that ground ball. How could I let that happen?"
Gorman: "Actually, that's what I wanted to talk to you about. You see, we, as an organization, cannot allow that to happen again. Our first thought was to make you the DH."
Buckner: "But what about Jim Rice?"
Gorman: "That was the problem with that theory. That means that we only have one other choice: Move you."
Buckner: "To what? Outfield? Bench? I'll do anything to redeem myself from the World Series."
Gorman: "Well, I'm happy to hear you say that. However, you will need to do it for another team."
Buckner: "What?"
Gorman: "I'm sorry, Bill, but we're going to have to move you. In other words, we will explore trade scenarios with other teams. If that doesn't work, you will be released. You will not be in Red Sox Spring Training; you will be gone by then, one way or another."
Buckner: "Oh my God... Are you serious?"
Gorman: "Yes. I'm sorry, Bill, but we feel this is best for-"
Buckner: "You know what? Save it. I don't need your sympathy. You want to trade me? Do it. Release? Do it. Boston is my third team. What's one more?"
Gorman: "That's interesting... You can find your way out of here, right? Or are you going to make an "error" in judgement?"
Buckner: "Whatever."

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Originally Posted by soxfan93

Or are you going to make an "error" in judgement?"

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HaHa...dis

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Originally Posted by filihok

HaHa...dis

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Yeah, haha, I really wanted to slip that in there :P

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November 15, 1986
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McNamara: "Have you found anything yet?"
Gorman: "No. Surprisingly, there are not many teams interested in a 37 year old first baseman who has never hit 20 homers in a season."
McNamara: "How long has Bill been playing again?"
Gorman: "He made his Major League debut in 1969 for the Dodgers."
McNamara: "And he's never hit 20? Is that possible?"
Gorman: "I guess so. The only way that I can see moving him is to pay his contract, even if we get nothing in return."
McNamara: "Is that a joke?"
Gorman: "Unfortunately, no, it isn't."
McNamara: "Have you considered unconditional release?"
Gorman: "That would cost even more."
McNamara: "So, what are you going to do?"
Gorman: "... I don't know yet. We're going to have to move on, whether he's here or not. Just send him back to Rookie ball or something."
McNamara: "Yeah, maybe they can teach him how to field a ground ball."
Gorman: "Exactly. I'll keep looking."
McNamara: "Okay."

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November 29, 1986
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Gorman (on phone): "Good afternoon, ma'am. This is Lou Gorman, General Manager of the Boston Red Sox. I was hoping to speak with Sandy Alderson. Is he in?"
A's Secretary: "Yes, he is. I'll patch you through."
Gorman: "Thank you very much."

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Sandy Alderson, Oakland Athletics General Manager: "Hello?"
Gorman: "Good afternoon, Mr. Alderson."
Alderson: "Hello, Mr. Gorman. What can I do for you?"
Gorman: "Well, sir, I was curious whether or not Mark McGwire is available. Is he?"
Alderson: Laughs. "He certainly could be, for the right price..."
Gorman: "What are you looking to acquire?"
Alderson: "We are currently seeking a backup third baseman, however, Mark will cost a lot more than that."
Gorman: "Understandable. Do you have any interest in 1B Bill Buckner?"
Alderson: Laughs. "Not at all. We are really interested in prospects. Young, controllable, and affordable players that can contribute for the next six years."
Gorman: "Okay. We have quite a few solid prospects that could be included. Another player that could be sent is CF Dave Henderson. Are you interested in him?"
Alderson: "Actually, yes, we are. We could make a deal involving him?"
Gorman: "Absolutely. And, don't worry, he would in no way be the center piece on our end."
Alderson: "Oh, yeah? Who else do you have in mind?"
Gorman: "Does SP Eric Hetzel interest you?"
Alderson: "That kid you took number one a couple of years ago?"
Gorman: "Yeah. My scouts have told me that he has a lot of potential with good work habits. He could be included."
Alderson: "That could work. Who else?"
Gorman: "We've got a couple of other pitching prospects that could be included."
Alderson: "Like who?"
Gorman: "Reliever Josias Manzanillo. This kid is going to be something special, potentially a great closer in the league."
Alderson: "Hmmm... Well, Eck is getting older, not to mention the fact that his contract expires after 1988. Alright, he could be included."
Gorman: "I've got another reliever you should check out: Paul Quantrill. He could be a very good setup man. He has the potential."
Alderson: "Yes, that could work, too. I'm a little bit weary of making this deal, though."
Gorman: "Catching prospect John Flaherty. He is 19, so he has plenty of time to develop into a big league catcher."
Alderson: "Alright. I think we could do that deal. Run it back to me?"
Gorman: "Sure. 1B Mark McGwire and, say, P Joe Bitker in exchange for CF Dave Henderson, P Eric Hetzel, P Josias Manzanillo, P Paul Quantrill, and C John Flaherty. What do you think?"
Alderson: "Interesting... Can you give me a few days to talk it over with the owners?
Gorman: "Of course."
Alderson: "Okay, I will call you back on Tuesday."
Gorman: "That sounds good. Have a good weekend."
Alderson: "Thanks, you too. Goodbye."
Gorman: "Goodbye."

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Nice start. You seem like you are committed to this, so I hope to be reading this a long time from now. And don't worry about playing BM 08, in these reports, it's pretty hard to notice. Plus, IMO, you're not missing much from 09. Good luck!

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Nice start. You seem like you are committed to this, so I hope to be reading this a long time from now. And don't worry about playing BM 08, in these reports, it's pretty hard to notice. Plus, IMO, you're not missing much from 09. Good luck!

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Thanks for the comment. Yes, I am very committed to this dynasty, and I'm even more so now that I know people are reading it. I've got a lot of ideas to employ within the next few weeks (and more after ;))

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December 2, 1986
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Lou Gorman (on phone): "Hello?"
Sandy Alderson: "Good morning, Mr. Gorman. This is Sandy Alderson."
Gorman: "Oh, hello. How are you doing today?"
Alderson: "Ah, so far, so good."
Gorman: Laughs. "Well said, sir."
Alderson: "Yes. My call is regarding your trade proposal for 1B Mark McGwire."
Gorman: "Okay."
Alderson: "Well, I have discussed it with Mr. Haas, Jr., weighing the pros and the cons to a deal like this. And after careful analysis of our organization, and the trade itself, we have decided to accept your proposal. We feel that Eric Hetzel can be the ace of our staff for years to come. Along with him, our scouts have given Josias Manzanillo and Paul Quantrill very good reports. They can make our bullpen, easily. John Flaherty could become a starter on our team; if not, the rest of the deal would make up for it. I have always liked Dave Henderson, and am very happy to have him."
Gorman: "Well, it was a pleasure doing business with you, sir."
Alderson: "With you, as well. Good luck this season."
Gorman: "You too. Goodbye."
Alderson: "Goodbye."

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Gorman (on phone): "Remember when I told you that I would find somebody?"
McNamara: "For what?"
Gorman: "First base."
McNamara: "Oh, yeah. Why? Did you?"
Gorman: "Have you ever heard of Mark McGwire?"
McNamara: "Yes, I have. How do you plan on getting him in a Red Sox uniform?"
Gorman: Laughs. "John, I already have."

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Sweet. Let's hope he left his needles in the bay...

Good start, I'm looking forward to this!

Yeah, really. Well, if necessary, he will be suspended.

Like you said, let's hope it never gets to that haha.

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December 4, 1986
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Lou Gorman: "Mark, we would like to welcome you to Fenway Park. This is your new ballpark."
Mark McGwire, Boston Red Sox First Baseman: "Thank you, sir. I'm very happy to be here."
Gorman: "And we are very happy to have you. This is John McNamara, he will be your manager."
John McNamara: "Hello, Mark. How do you feel about batting cleanup?"
McGwire: "Sounds great."
McNamara: "Good. You should get plenty of pitches to hit, as you are currently scheduled to hit between Wade Boggs and Dwight Evans."
McGwire: "Cool."
Gorman: "Shall we start the press conference?"
McGwire: "Yeah."
McNamara:"Okay."
Gorman: "Alright. Let's go."

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Gorman: "We would like to officially announce that the Boston Red Sox have acquired rookie first baseman Mark McGwire from the Oakland Athletics for center fielder Dave Henderson and four prospects. We felt that Mark would add a great dimension of power to our already solid offense, not to mention an improvement to the defense."
Press laughs.
Gorman: "So, allow me to introduce our newest acquisition, first baseman, Mark McGwire."

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/j...t1_mcgwire.jpg
Mark McGwire waves to the press as he takes his seat.

McGwire: "Thank you, Lou. I'm very happy to be a part of this organization, and excited to help lead the team back to the World Series."
Gorman: "Well, we all hope you do."
McGwire: "Thank you, sir."
Gorman: "You're welcome. We would also like to announce that Bill Buckner is available. Any team that is interested, please call me."

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You have a lot of confidence in a guy with 53 major league at bats, to bat him clean up for the defending AL champions

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Originally Posted by filihok

You have a lot of confidence in a guy with 53 major league at bats, to bat him clean up for the defending AL champions

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Definitely although the starting 1B for the '88 sox....the immortal Todd Benzinger

In those 53 At Bats (18 Games), he hit 3 Home Runs and 9 RBIs... If you convert that to a full season, it would have been 27 HRs and 81 RBIs. However, he hit just .189 with .259 OBP. So, you might be right. I'll look it over and try to find a better spot to bat him (perhaps 6th, move Evans to 3rd, Boggs to 4th, Rice to 5th?).

Thank you for pointing that out. I guess I accidentally went by ratings instead of realistic logic, if that makes any sense.

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Originally Posted by soxfan93

In those 53 At Bats (18 Games), he hit 3 Home Runs and 9 RBIs... If you convert that to a full season, it would have been 27 HRs and 81 RBIs. However, he hit just .189 with .259 OBP. So, you might be right. I'll look it over and try to find a better spot to bat him (perhaps 6th, move Evans to 3rd, Boggs to 4th, Rice to 5th?).

Thank you for pointing that out. I guess I accidentally went by ratings instead of realistic logic, if that makes any sense.

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Too late, you already promised him. You don't want to be one of THOSE kind of GM's do you?

Yeah, that's true. But, I guess if he doesn't perform well in Spring Training and/or the first month or so, the lineup would need to be adjusted, anyway. Right?

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December 5, 1986
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Lou Gorman: "John, are you sure you want to bat Mark cleanup?"
John McNamara: "Yes, Lou, I am. I think he has the potential to do very well in this league. Plus, think about it, a right-handed pull hitter, in Fenway Park. He should send one into the nets once per series, at least."
Gorman: Laughs. "You have a lot of confidence in a guy with 53 major league at bats, to bat him clean up for the defending AL champions."
McNamara: "You are absolutely right. I do have a lot of confidence in Mark's abilities. As the manager, I have to in order to keep him happy and excited to be here."
Gorman: "If you say so."

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December 12, 1986
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Gorman (on phone): "Hello. I am looking for Bill Lajoie."
Secretary, Detroit Tigers: "Who is this?"
Gorman: "Oh, pardon me. My name is Lou Gorman, General Manager of the Boston Red Sox."
Secretary: "I'll let him know."
Gorman: "Thank you."

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Bill Lajoie, General Manager of the Detroit Tigers: "Good afternoon, Mr. Gorman."
Gorman: "Good afternoon, Mr. Lajoie."
Lajoie: "How can I help you?"
Gorman: "I was wondering if Alan Trammell is available. Is he?"
Click.
Gorman: "Well, that was rude..."

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Gorman (on phone): "Hello?"
McNamara: "Hello, Lou. It's John."
Gorman: "How are you doing?"
McNamara: "Pretty good. Have you found anybody stupid enough to take on that defensive liability yet?"
Gorman: "No. I'm still trying, but having some very, very bad luck. It seems to be impossible. Nobody wants him."
McNamara: "Do you blame them?"
Gorman: "... Not at all."

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Wow, this is really good so far, keep it up!

Thanks RSF. I'm glad to see so many people reading this.

This is a neat way to handle it...can't wait to see how the Buckner situation is resolved. I thought you were going to keep him on the Red Sox, based on the title...I guess you still could.

The use of McGuire's picture from the congressional hearings was priceless. Well done.

Thanks, Mizerak.

Yeah, I thought that I would keep Buckner when I started... but then I got some ideas... I don't know, we'll have to wait and see. :)

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December 20, 1986
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John McNamara: "So, Lou, have you found anyone to take him?"
Lou Gorman: "No. Seriously, nobody wants a 37-year old first baseman earning $840,000.00 on their bench."
McNamara: "What are you saying?"
Gorman: "I'm saying it's going to take a miracle to get him off of this team."

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Bill Buckner (on phone): "Hello?"
Gorman: "Hello, Bill. It's Lou Gorman. Listen, do you have any preferences as to where you want to play next year?"
Buckner: "Not Boston."
Gorman: "We're not an option, anyway; we've moved on, and we don't want you."
Buckner: "Just release me. I'll take it from there."

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December 22, 1986
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Gorman: "I talked to Bill."
McNamara: "Buckner?"
Gorman: "Yes."
McNamara: "Why?"
Gorman: "I asked him if he had any preferences as to where we send him."
McNamara: "Does he?"
Gorman: "He told me, quote, 'not Boston.'"
McNamara: "Ouch."
Gorman: "It doesn't matter to me. He said just release him, and he'll take it from there."
McNamara: "You know, he makes a good point. Why haven't you just released him? I mean, we don't want him here, he doesn't want to be here. It makes sense to me."
Gorman: "Not to me. First of all, I want him to suffer. After what he has done, and said, he doesn't deserve to control his fate. Second, again, it would cost us more to release him than it would to trade him. In that case, we might as well keep him, which isn't going to happen. If we can't trade him..."

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gorman: "not to me. First of all, i want him to suffer.

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rofl

Two pages - a 5 for 1 deal and a petty GM.

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Two pages - a 5 for 1 deal and a petty GM.

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I'm still trying to set the scene and story, you know?

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January 5, 1987
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Syd Thrift, Pittsburgh Pirates General Manager: "Good morning. My name is Syd Thrift, and I am the General Manager of the National League's Pittsburgh Pirates."
Jessica Stevens, Boston Red Sox Secretary: "Good morning, Mr. Thrift."
Thrift: "I was hoping to speak to Lou Gorman. Is he in?"
Stevens: "Yes, he is. One moment, please."

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Lou Gorman: "Hello, Mr. Thrift."
Thrift: "Hello. How are you today, sir?"
Gorman: "I am doing well, how about you?"
Thrift: "I am doing well, myself."
Gorman: "How can I help you?"
Thrift: "Malcom Prine, the President and CEO of this organization, has told me that Bill Buckner is available. Is this true?"
Gorman: "Yes, sir, he is."
Thrift: "Good. Mr. Prine is very interested in him, so much as to tell me to acquire him. After thinking it over, and looking at the stats, I have become a little bit interested in him, as well."
Gorman: "Okay. What kind of deal were you thinking of?"
Thrift: "That was the problem. What are you interested in?"
Gorman: "For Bill Buckner? Whatever I can get."
Thrift: Laughs. "Well, how about we expand this a little bit?"
Gorman: "To what?"
Thrift: "We are very interested in Dwayne Hosey."
Gorman: "Our top prospect?"
Thrift: "Yes."
Gorman: "It could take quite a bit to lure him away, as he should develop into an excellent player."
Thrift: "I know. That's why we want him."
Gorman: "Okay. Again, he will take something big."
Thrift: "Buckner, Hosey, and maybe a couple of pitchers."
Gorman: "Which pitchers?"
Thrift: "Peter Hoy?"
Gorman: "And?"
Thrift: "Jeff Plympton?"
Gorman: "Okay. For who?"
Thrift: "Who do you like?"
Gorman: "For Hosey? A top prospect from the Pirates organization."
Thrift: "That's only fair. Name anyone."
Gorman: "Barry Bonds."
Thrift: Laughs. "No."
Gorman: "I expected that. How about Moises Alou?"
Thrift: "Hmm... We do have Bonds, Bobby Bonilla, and Orlando Merced for our future. And, if we move Bonds to a corner, one becomes expendable and Hosey goes to center."
Gorman: "Right. Add in a pitcher, maybe Tim Wakefield?"
Thrift: "We would rather keep Tim in Pittsburgh. How about Brett Gideon?"
Gorman: "Okay, that might work."
Thrift: "So, do we have a deal?"
Gorman: "... Yes."

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Well me myself ran a Pirates' dynasty, you may of read it, not sure but anyways I played with Alou, never heard of Gideon. Alou turns into a superstar, was really nice. I would've tried to get Wake though, he projected at my second starter or something like that. Sucks to give up your top prospect, but losing Buckner must be a load of your back.

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Well me myself ran a Pirates' dynasty, you may of read it, not sure but anyways I played with Alou, never heard of Gideon. Alou turns into a superstar, was really nice. I would've tried to get Wake though, he projected at my second starter or something like that. Sucks to give up your top prospect, but losing Buckner must be a load of your back.

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Yeah, that's exactly the way I looked at it. Thrift wanted $1,000,000.00 Cash to give up Wakefield, which I was not prepared to do. At least, not right now. As you said, giving up Buckner to get Alou makes it much easier to give up Houser, plus, Houser is a center fielder, which is blocked by Ellis Burks.

Thanks for reading!

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January 6, 1987
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Lou Gorman: "Good morning, John."
John McNamara: "And you, Lou. What's going on?"
Gorman: "About what?"
McNamara: "I've heard some grumblings. Is it true? Is he really gone?"
Gorman: "Yes, he has been traded to the Pittsburgh Pirates."
McNamara: "Great. Who did we get back?"
Gorman: "Outfield prospect Moises Alou, and reliever Brett Gideon."
McNamara: "Moises Alou? What kind of a name is that?"
Gorman: "He is from a Dominican family. His father is Felipe Alou, former player and current manager of the minor league West Palm Beach Expos."
McNamara: "Really? This is his kid?"
Gorman: "Yeah. He's still only 20."
McNamara: "Good. Well, lets hope he ends up like his father: A starting outfielder in the Major Leagues."

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Bill Buckner, former Red Sox First Baseman (on phone): "Hello?"
Gorman: "Bill, this is Lou Gorman. I know you don't like me, so I'll just get right to it."
Buckner: "Okay?"
Gorman: "You have been traded."
Buckner: "To where?"
Gorman: "Pittsburgh."
Buckner: Laughs.
Gorman: "What is so funny?"
Buckner: "You guys are afraid of having me in the A.L."
Gorman: "What? No. Not at all. What gave you that idea?"
Buckner: "Uh... Pittsburgh is part of the National League."
Gorman: "That has nothing to do with it."
Buckner: "Then, why Pittsburgh?"
Gorman: "Because nobody else wanted you."

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January 6, 1987
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Buckner: "Uh... Pittsburgh is part of the National League."
Gorman: "That has nothing to do with it."
Buckner: "Then, why Pittsburgh?"
Gorman: "Because nobody else wanted you."

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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha:p that made me laugh

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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha:p that made me laugh

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:D I'm always happy to slip little jokes in there haha.

Thanks for reading. I'm expecting to get the season started within the next couple of days.

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January 6, 1987
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Lou Gorman: "Good morning, John."
John McNamara: "And you, Lou. What's going on?"
Gorman: "About what?"
McNamara: "I've heard some grumblings. Is it true? Is he really gone?"
Gorman: "Yes, he has been traded to the Pittsburgh Pirates."
McNamara: "Great. Who did we get back?"
Gorman: "Outfield prospect Moises Alou, and reliever Brett Gideon."
McNamara: "Moises Alou? What kind of a name is that?"
Gorman: "He is from a Dominican family. His father is Felipe Alou, former player and current manager of the minor league West Palm Beach Expos."
McNamara: "Really? This is his kid?"
Gorman: "Yeah. He's still only 20."
McNamara: "Good. Well, lets hope he ends up like his father: A starting outfielder in the Major Leagues."

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This McNamara is a total douche considering Felipe played for him in 1970 and Matty in 1974.

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This McNamara is a total douche considering Felipe played for him in 1970 and Matty in 1974.

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Yeah, I did this for a reason. If you continue to read, hopefully you will, you'll see what I mean.

However, thank you for pointing it out, in case some people didn't know. It is an interesting fact (according to my game, both generations were in the same organization as McNamara.)

A little something that reminds me of your dynasty

http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showpos...92&postcount=1

Thanks for posting that, filihok. It gave me a good laugh. :p

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February 17, 1987
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John McNamara: "Hello, Lou. It's been a while since we last talked. Have you made any more progress?"
Lou Gorman: "On what, John?"
McNamara: "Improving the Red Sox organization."
Gorman: "... Haven't I?
McNamara: "Yes, but it could always be improved."
Gorman: "True. Is there anything else you are interested in?"
McNamara: "Personally, I would like a starting shortstop."
Gorman: "Really?"
McNamara: "Yes. Spike has never been good: .235 average, 12 home runs, 146 RBIs, and 211 runs scored. That's over his entire 5-year career."
Gorman: "He's that bad?"
McNamara: "Yes. He only has 403 career hits."
Gorman: "Wow. If I had known that, a starting shortstop would have been a priority. I'm sorry."
McNamara: "It's okay."
Gorman: "Is there anything else on your wish list?"
McNamara: "As it stands, I would like to improve our pitching staff. Roger Clemens is our ace; Bruce Hurst is our number two; Bob Stanley is our closer; who else is a sure-thing after them?"
Gorman: "That is true, as well. So, you want another starter?"
McNamara: "Yes, not to mention the rest of the staff."
Gorman: "Alright. I'll call around."
McNamara: "Okay."

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February 27, 1987
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Gorman (on phone): "Hello, this is Lou Gorman of the Boston Red Sox. I was hoping to speak to George 'Dallas' Green. Is he in?"
Amanda Simpson, Secretary: "Yes, he is. One moment, please."
Gorman: "Thank you."

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Dallas Green, President and General Manager of the Chicago Cubs: "Hello, Mr. Gorman. How can I help you this afternoon?"
Gorman: "Hello, Mr. Green. I was wondering if you were taking offers on pitcher Jamie Moyer. Are you?"
Green: "Well, we aren't searching for a deal, if that's what you're asking."
Gorman: "No, not at all. I was hoping to make a trade for him."
Green: "It's possible; we don't like declaring any of our players 'untouchable.' However, if you want a youngster like Jamie, I want some youth in return."
Gorman: "Of course. Do you have any interest in center fielder Bob Zupcic?"
Green: "No, we have no interest in him."
Gorman: "How about left fielder Dana Williams?"
Green: "How about center fielder Ellis Burks?"
Gorman: "I was thinking more like Wayne Housie."
Green: "And?"
Gorman: "Relief prospect Daryl Irvine?"
Green: "I like it. Who else?"
Gorman: "Shortstop Ed Romero and pitcher Steve Crawford?"
Green: "That sounds like enough."
Gorman: "Would you add in, maybe, $100,000.00?
Green: "Okay, sure. So, run that back to me."
Gorman: "Housie, Irvine, Romero, and Crawford for Moyer and $100,000.00."
Green: "Deal. Let's announce it to the media."

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McNamara: "Hello?"
Gorman: "I got you that pitcher you wanted."
McNamara: "Who?"
Gorman: "Jamie Moyer."
McNamara: "Really?"
Gorman: "Yeah. Could you slot him into the four hole, behind Roger, Bruce, and Dennis?"
McNamara: "Well, it's either Dennis or Al, but, yeah, that could work well. Who would we do five?"
Gorman: "I'm thinking Jamie pitches between Al and Dennis, in what ever order those two pitch."
McNamara: "That's a good idea. Thank you for making that deal, it could really help this team."
Gorman: "Your welcome."

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Ok, I'm hopefully going to start the season tomorrow, and do quite a bit this weekend. So, I'm finally ready to announce your 1987 Boston Red Sox.

Starting Lineup:

1. SS Spike Owens (72/78)
2. 2B Marty Barrett (74)
3. 3B Wade Boggs (81)
4. 1B Mark McGwire (85/94) [ROOKIE]
5. RF Dwight Evans (84)
6. DH Jim Rice (78)
7. CF Ellis Burks (80/91) [ROOKIE]
8. LF Mike Greenwell (86/95) [ROOKIE]
9. C Rich Gedman (68)

Bench:

CF Kevin Romine (80/84) [ROOKIE]
1B Pat Dodson (78/84) [ROOKIE]
C Marc Sullivan (71/73)
INF Glenn Hoffman (72)
1B Don Baylor (74)

Rotation:

1. Roger Clemens (88)
2. Bruce Hurst (84)
3. Oil Can Boyd (75)
4. Jamie Moyer (83/94)
5. Al Nipper (71)

Bullpen:

Closer: Bob Stanley (87)
Setup: Calvin Schiraldi (75/85)
Short Relief: Joe Sambito (74)
Short Relief: Brett Gideon (68/82) [ROOKIE]
Middle Relief: Ken Ryan (67/75) [ROOKIE]
Long Relief: Jeff Sellers (78/88)

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Top Prospects:

1. INF John Valentin (77/95) [AAA]
2. LF Moises Alou (79/95) [AAA]
3. LF Brady Anderson (75/94) [AA]
4. 3B Tim Naehring (71/91) [AAA]
5. LHP Kevin Morton (60/91) [AAA]
6. RHP Gar Finnvold (60/86) [AAA]
7. LHP Zach Crouch (58/90) [AA]
8. LHP Mike Farmer (54/88) [A]
9. C Eric Wedge (68/88) [AAA]
10. 2B Jody Reed (72/84) [AAA]