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Mediocrity?Quote:
Originally Posted by rockiesfan4ever
That is better then what they have been :pQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
They need a lot of things. Doesn't mean they should be making bad tradesQuote:
Originally Posted by rockiesfan4ever
Hey, i was just saying what the paper said
Rob Neyer on the trade/Dayton Moore:
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Moore repeated on-base percentage 29 times in one interview. Dayton Moore gets it, finally … until his very first significant offseason move, when he acquires an everyday player who will, more than anything, be a drag on the team's on-base percentage. This is exactly the sort of thing the Royals would have done 20 years ago -- those teams were perennially OBP-challenged, too -- which, come to think of it, makes a lot of sense because the man making the moves 20 years ago was John Schuerholz. Moore's mentor before he got his job with the Royals? John Schuerholz.
Moore was supposed to build Schuerholz's winning Braves of the 1990s. But instead he's rebuilding Schuerholz's losing Royals of the late 1980s and early '90s. And we had such high hopes for the young man.
Here is Rany's full take on trading for Mike Jacobs...written before the trade became official, but that changes nothing. Warning: It might as well be a book, :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255
Bad trade for Florida. A very good young 1B for.... Leo Nunez?
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Originally Posted by metsguy234
Mike Jacobs is not very good, NOR is he young.
Leo Nunez is a very good, young reliever.
Relievers come pretty cheap. I don't think Nunez is the next MoRiv or anything. In the long run this deal probably ends up as a wash
Mike Jacobs is 28. And he's quite good.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Leo Nunez, I've never heard of.
Mike Jacobs isn't a stud, nor is he a dud, he will provide you good power but that's all he provides. He hit .230 last year and had 30 homer's, to me he's an all or nothing type of player, on top of that he isn't a gold-glove 1B, but he is a lefty and the Royals really have nothing to loose here.
28 is not young for a first basemen with old player skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
He's also not "quite good." He's terrible defensively, has negative baserunning value, never walks, and can't hit lefties. He'd be okay as a platoon DH against righties, because power is his only skill.
Educate yourself.Quote:
Leo Nunez, I've never heard of.
24 year old reliever, solid performance so far in the majors the last 2 years.
Gaby Sanchez's minor league numbers... he has pop in his bat and decent speed, but he'll be making the jump from AA. He also played some at third base and catcher.
Actually, he seems to be either slower then he thinks he is or a stupid baserunner. He barely triples, and gets caught stealing too much. Not that he is slow, but he definately is being used badly in running terms. His versibilty could make him pretty useful, he has stats that may fit better as a 2nd or 3rd baseman in the long runQuote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
Sorry, but you're wrong on this one. Leo Nunez is insanely skinny...go look up a picture of him. Then watch his motion. He is EXTREMELY injury prone. He didn't even have great K or BB numbers last year when he was available to pitch. His control is often erratic.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Now, Jacobs certainly isn't without flaw..but he has a career OPS+ of 110 while playing in a big ballpark. I fail to see how this is a bad trade for the Royals. Everyone says we have a huge logjam of similar players? Uhhh..as a diehard Royals fan, I'd love to hear about this wonderful problem we have. Kila Kaaihue has had ONE good year in the minors in his career. Billy Butler, while full of potential, wasn't that great last year. Ryan Shealy had one good month last year and has more leg injuries in his past than I can possibly count. The last guy is Ross Gload, who is a waste of a good uniform.
Mike Jacobs isn't a great hitter, but he's a pretty decent one..and getting a pretty decent hitter for a decent reliever who is a gigantic injury risk every single year...I don't see how we lose this one. Leo couldn't even strike out 5 batters per 9 innings as a reliever last year..that's pathetic for supposedly having amazing stuff. Again...Jacob's isn't great, but you guys are MASSIVELY overrating Leo Nunez..a guy none of you have probably ever heard of before this (and deservedly so..he's simply decent).
Also...I just can't understand how you say that Ryan Shealy and Kila Kaaihue are better than Mike Jacobs.......I don't understand that one at all. Kila has had one good minor league season and will be starting in AAA next year to prove it wasn't a fluke...and Shealy...uh...can you provide any evidence that he's already better than Mike Jacobs?? He did have one good month.