Well, wow. Terrible call there. Rollins was out by a mile.
The umpiring this series has been absolutely terrible. It's really pathetic.
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Well, wow. Terrible call there. Rollins was out by a mile.
The umpiring this series has been absolutely terrible. It's really pathetic.
Sonnanstine should have went for the double play, and the inning would have been over, especially with Howard being a slow baserunner.
But agreed, horrible horrible call.
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Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Yep, worst I've seen in a series. And again, this is what will lead to the expansion of replay. And I'm tired of hearing "it's part of the game" because it's not. When a guy tags a guy out, he's supposed to be out. Those are the rules. THAT'S part of the game. If you have to use real live umpires, video replay, or friggin robots, it doesn't matter. The part of the game that counts is when you tag someone out, he's out. Period.
And now, if the call was made right, the inning is over with no runs. Instead it's at least 1-0 Phillies, and maybe even more. Absolutely pathetic. Especially when the replay was so clear. He tagged him, he was out. Only he wasn't. Truly pathetic.
The Phillies have gotten every possible break you can get this series. The completely ridiculous non-balk call on Hamels, a tornado-like wind (exaggeration) keeping Longoria's ball in the park....Iwamura just missing a HR in the first inning today...that completely ridiculous call at 3rd base......Jamie Moyer getting a gigantic strike zone.....everything is going the Phillies way so far.
How far can a runner (like Rollins) go out of the baseline to avoid getting tagged?
To be fair, there's been some pretty terrible calls that went in favor of Tampa as well. The umpiring has been terrible for both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
From MLB Official rules, it's three feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by BINGLEBOP
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7.08 Any runner is out when—
(1) He runs more than three feet away from his baseline to avoid being tagged unless his action is to avoid interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball. A runner’s baseline is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely; or
(2) after touching first base, he leaves the baseline, obviously abandoning his effort to touch the next base;
Rule 7.08(a)
Comment: Any runner after reaching first base who leaves the baseline heading for his dugout or his position believing that there is no further play, may be declared out if the umpire judges the act of the runner to be considered abandoning his efforts to run the bases. Even though an out is called, the ball remains in play in regard to any other runner.
This rule also covers the following and similar plays: Less than two out, score tied last of ninth inning, runner on first, batter hits a ball out of park for winning run, the runner on first passes second and thinking the home run automatically wins the game, cuts across diamond toward his bench as batter-runner circles bases. In this case, the base runner would be called out “for abandoning his effort to touch the next base” and batter-runner permitted to continue around bases to make his home run valid. If there are two out, home run would not count (see Rule 7.12). This is not an appeal play.
PLAY. Runner believing he is called out on a tag at first or third base starts for the dugout and progresses a reasonable distance still indicating by his actions that he is out, shall be declared out for abandoning the bases.
Wow, I wonder if this is fixed, or being bet on by umps....
The umpiring has progressively been getting worse it seems...and I think part of it, or maybe even most of it, is because they aren't held accountable.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies
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Originally Posted by HoustonGM
That's true....I'm talking about more than just bad calls though. The Phillies have clearly been luckier so far. Nothing wrong with it, that's what happens in short series.
I have never seen such bad umpiring over a short period of time though, jeez. Even Buck and McCarver have noticed it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Sonnanstine sucks so far. He had a long rest, but Blanton had even more time off since his last start.
Another stupid McCarver saying, "He's not used to fielding a ground ball that close to first base"
Its a groundball no matter where its hit in the infield, you f*u*c*k*i*n*g idiot
WTF ???? WTF is up with the Rays second baseman???? He can't catch a friggin cold tonight !
Well, that second play was actually well done. He had no play, but he kept the ball in the infield, preventing a run.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldFatGuy
McCarver just said that the long lay off for Sonnanstine (sp?) hasn't "affected his effectiveness, but has affected his control."
What????? Isn't having control kinda important in being effective???
That'd be a fun drinking game for people that drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by KowboyKoop
Every time McCarver says a stupid thing, take a drink.
You'd be plastered by the 3rd inning.
DAMN! Rays need to start lighting up Blanton or they're dead in the water :(
Three unearned runs, and one run from a missed call at third base. Not sure the Phillies are so much winning as the Rays are losing.
EDIT: WHOOPS. MY bad. I thought it was two outs when Ryan hit the HR. It was only one out. So only one of the three runs will be unearned, meaning a total of two unearned runs for the game.
I''ma alraedy wsated! ! Tahnks mCCcarverrQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
And this is why Hinske should've been on the roster prior to tonight...
Wow, that's one pissed off ump! :p
Really? Joe Blanton?
Jeez!
Turn out the lights, Tampa.
Joe Blanton goes deep?? I guess it's now obvious.
God wants the Phillies to win.
LOLOLOL, Blanton goes yard? WOW!
They better do something quick before Lidge gets ready, then its lights out
At this pace, they won't even need to use Lidge tonight.
Everything that needed to go right for the Phillies in order for them to win the series is...particularly Moyer and Blanton shutting down the Rays offense.
Joe Blanton!
He's going as Don Denkinger for HalloweenQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Nice catch by Pena to get that DP!
And this commercial intertwining the World Series with American Idol is pathetic and sickening.
Longoria is hopeless in this series.
good! keep him frozen!
And... the Rays are done. Hamels tomorrow.
Yes, it is.Quote:
And I'm tired of hearing "it's part of the game" because it's not.
:p
Ok, my bad. That's true, it is. In fact, it's an obvious part of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ohms_law
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. :p
Agreed. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OldFatGuy