Re: trades/signing this off season
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Originally Posted by
OregonDuck1989
Rockies will look at Ellsbury, for sure. I'm also thinking they will look at Justin Masterson as a possibility. Especially losing Fuentes this year. Doubt the Sox will trade Masterson.
I don't think we will go after Ellsbury. We have Fowler to come up and play CF in a few years and then they'd probably play Spilborghs in left.
Re: trades/signing this off season
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Originally Posted by
RedsoxRockies
O'Dowd, Please don't trade him! It would be cool to see him in Boston, because I could see him more often, but Colorado needs him.
Rockies aren't resigning a Boras client. Might as well trade him
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:) get rid of him i dont like him so i think they should get rid of him
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nope, don't want him.
1. Too expensive
2. No place for him (J.D. Drew has NO trade value, and no, he's not playing CF)
3. Home/Road stats show he's overrated
Last 3 years:
home .332 15 59 .413
road .308 10 29 .405
2007
home .376 25 82 .435
road .301 11 55 .374
2006
home .373 22 78 .440
road .280 12 36 .333 (biggest OBP difference)
Re: trades/signing this off season
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Originally Posted by
rockiesfan4ever
I don't think we will go after Ellsbury. We have Fowler to come up and play CF in a few years and then they'd probably play Spilborghs in left.
That is true. Fowler could be ready by next year even. But I'm not sold on Spilly quite yet though. But we'll see.
We're not going to resign the guy so might as well trade him out of town as soon as possible when teams are willing. Getting young pitchers is always a plus.
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Originally Posted by
cartman00000001
nope, don't want him.
1. Too expensive
2. No place for him (J.D. Drew has NO trade value, and no, he's not playing CF)
3. Home/Road stats show he's overrated
Last 3 years:
home .332 15 59 .413
road .308 10 29 .405
2007
home .376 25 82 .435
road .301 11 55 .374
2006
home .373 22 78 .440
road .280 12 36 .333 (biggest OBP difference)
say what???? I suppose if being better at home vs. on the road means you are overrated, more than half the league is well um..'overrated'!!!
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Originally Posted by
dickay
say what???? I suppose if being better at home vs. on the road means you are overrated, more than half the league is well um..'overrated'!!!
Exactly! And, his road stats still are very good!
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Well, as everyone knows, Coors Field is a VERY hitters friendly park, so I definitely see that argument. Though, his home/road splits have improved over the years, so I still think that when he leaves Coors, he will still be a .300, .380, .510 player or so.
Re: trades/signing this off season
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Originally Posted by
dickay
say what???? I suppose if being better at home vs. on the road means you are overrated, more than half the league is well um..'overrated'!!!
Coors Field is one of the best "hitters parks" in the majors. He hits considerably better(atleast .030 batting average points better at Coors, more power at Coors, etc.).
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Originally Posted by
dickay
say what???? I suppose if being better at home vs. on the road means you are overrated, more than half the league is well um..'overrated'!!!
That's not the point. The point is that Coors Field inflates his statistics. He's still very good, and you can't just look at his road numbers and say "that's what he actually is without Coors" because it doesn't work that way, but he's worse than his raw numbers indicate. His OPS is over 200 points higher at home than on the road, which is extremely significant. I'd say, away from Coors, he'd put up .290/.360/.500 seasons...still very good, but not worth the price he's going to command.
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Originally Posted by
HoustonGM
That's not the point. The point is that Coors Field inflates his statistics. He's still very good, and you can't just look at his road numbers and say "that's what he actually is without Coors" because it doesn't work that way, but he's worse than his raw numbers indicate. His OPS is over 200 points higher at home than on the road, which is extremely significant. I'd say, away from Coors, he'd put up .290/.360/.500 seasons...still very good, but not worth the price he's going to command.
bingo! What do you think? Something like...oh let's say........Jason Bay type numbers? Maybe less than Bay?
Bay's career: .282 .375 .516
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Originally Posted by
cartman00000001
bingo! What do you think? Something like...oh let's say........Jason Bay type numbers? Maybe less than Bay?
Bay's career: .282 .375 .516
Maybe slightly worse offensive numbers than Bay, but makes up for it with much better defense and baserunning.
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Most of the rumors I have heard have been involving the Angels.
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Re: trades/signing this off season
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Originally Posted by
rockiesfan4ever
Most of the rumors I have heard have been involving the Angels.
Another outfielder! :eek: They are going to be full of overpriced OFers like Guerrero, Matthews, Anderson, and Hunter!