That's right, got to get "on the same page" with their "team chemistry" (was that HGH or some other undetectable strength building chemical?) ;)
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That's right, got to get "on the same page" with their "team chemistry" (was that HGH or some other undetectable strength building chemical?) ;)
I want the PR to lose so we can have Yadier Molina back he's the lone Cardinal in teh classic. Dennys Reyes is coming back he was on Mexico
It's funny that the only 2 people who have the weirdest player evaluations are against the WBC xD.
I love the WBC but We need Yadi to be ready for OD LaRue is not the CatcherQuote:
Originally Posted by 200tang
You guys are lucky, we have like 10 guys still in it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthJaker
How does playing in the WBC prevent him from being ready for Opening Day?
He barely had STQuote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
the WBC is more intense than ST anyways; isn't that why everyone gets so riled up over the fact that they're in the WBC? Also, the season starts later than usual because of the WBC so it isn't like they won't have time to meet up with coaches and what not for a week or 2 to get ready for the season.
Was he somehow not playing and practicing baseball while playing in the World Baseball Classic?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthJaker
:confused: He's been playing extremely competitive baseball and in an extremely competitive atmosphere for this tournament instead. How is it that playing in pretend games is better than playing in (perhaps not to you or metsguy, but to him and everyone who is involved) extremely meaningful ones? I just don't get it. It's not like he's wasted away on the bench. He's been part of one of the most awesome Catching trios ever assembled. Think he's not soaking up all he can from Pudge?...Think again. Vernon Wells had one of his best seasons ever after playing in the Classic in 2006. Team bonding is overrated and so is the injury excuse. Injuries can happen anywhere. Just ask Aaron Boone. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by DarthJaker
1) Hey Vernon Wells- Brad Lidge and Chris Reitsma said hi.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
2) These games aren't extremely meaningful. Don't act like they are, they're not and you know it. I'd rather have someone get hurt in a non-meaningful game with the team they are under contract for then have them get hurt playing for someone else.
3) These players are being overworked by their country teams... Oliver Perez was left in to throw 85 pitches WTF? If he got hurt because of that, I'd be pissed off!
Which just goes to show that there is no correlation between someone playing in the WBC and how they play the following season.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
They are more meaningful than spring training games.Quote:
2) These games aren't extremely meaningful. Don't act like they are, they're not and you know it. I'd rather have someone get hurt in a non-meaningful game with the team they are under contract for then have them get hurt playing for someone else.
Oh no! 85 pitches! The terror!Quote:
3) These players are being overworked by their country teams... Oliver Perez was left in to throw 85 pitches WTF? If he got hurt because of that, I'd be pissed off!
Oh YEAH! According to you last month, you'd be HAPPY if Oliver Perez got hurt, and that the Mets would have a better chance of making the playoffs if Perez missed the season. In fact, I'm pretty sure your exact words were "I hope he gets hurt the first game he pitches."
Reitsma- 3.93 ERA in 2005- 8.68 ERA in 2006Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Lidge- 2.29 ERA in 2005- 5.28 ERA in 2006
I said that but I don't actually believe that.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Also, I've heard K-Rod has gotten 2 saves over an inning... he normally doesn't do that... that's too risky...
2 players does not make a correlation.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
You really need to stop doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
OH COME ON. He normally doesn't do that because managers use their closers in order to rack up saves, not to optimize their chances of winning. Over 2003-2004, Francisco Rodriguez averaged over an inning per appearance. Did he somehow become much weaker?Quote:
Also, I've heard K-Rod has gotten 2 saves over an inning... he normally doesn't do that... that's too risky...
Btw, look, I can play the Small Sample game too;
Vernon Wells, .783 OPS in 2005, .899 OPS in 2006.
Chan Ho Park, 5.74 ERA in 2005, 4.81 ERA in 2006.
Albert Pujols, 1.039 OPS in 2005, 1.102 OPS in 2006.
Johan Santana, 2.87 ERA in 2005, 2.77 ERA in 2006
The Tigers need Venezuela to lose now. The entire outfield is playing in the WBC; Verlander and Bonderman are going to forget how their starting outfield likes to field fly balls.
mets your just blatantly trolling.
/agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989
1) Correlation does not imply causation. Just because Wells had a great season on the heels of the 2006 Classic does not mean that the Classic caused it. Same with Lidge and Reitsma. I only used Wells because I knew that he felt that the cause of his very good 2006 season was the prep work he did leading into the Classic and the tournament itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
2) Go back and re-read my quote. I never said these were extremely meaningful (unless you ignore what people put in brackets in which case you're gonna be really effed up by this statement) games. What I said was (if you include the brackets) that these games may not be meaningful to you and Jaker, but they are extremely meaningful to the players that are participating, unless I'm a complete dipsh*t when it comes to reading the unanimously enthusiastic body language from the players involved in this tournament. This tournament is also partly about spreading the game to get more people playing in more countries, which potentially deepens the talent pool that MLB can draw on, which is good for fans like you and me.
3) Even if Oliver Perez gets hurt, it won't be because he threw 85 pitches. What's probably more dangerous is putting a pitcher on a team and not using him. Venezuela did that with Gustavo Chacin in 2006 and he ain't been the same since. Obviously, Chacin doesn't have as much talent as Perez, but the reason he stumbled in the first place was that the Venezuelans iced him for that tournament. Perhaps he was mishandled by the Jays when he returned to ST that year, who knows. As with Wells, Lidge, and Reitsma unless you have access to some kind of alternate universe machine you can't definitively say that the Classic benefited or hindered them. All you can determine is whether or not the player enjoyed the experience and for that answer you'll have to ask them yourself or read their quotes on various and sundry sites. In the end the player's enjoyment is all that matters because it's their life/career and this type of experience doesn't come around that often.
By the way I thought your favourite 3B DWright summed it up well when he said: "You can pull an oblique here, you can pull an oblique in Fort Myers or Port St. Lucie. It doesn't matter where." Then he talks about the need to go full out whether you're in ST or at the Classic because when you get worried about injuries and decide to go 75% you're probably more likely to get hurt. Youkilis mentions that ST results in possibly more injuries than the Classic has and he guestimates that 30 or so players in each team's camp sit for a couple of days with various tweaks and strains.
Do Football (soccer) clubs in Europe tell their players they can't represent their country in the World Cup or Euro tournaments? Only if they want to be drawn and quartered by the fans of said countries. But, the World Cup and Euro have more tradition than the World Baseball Classic. No sh*t Sherlock. What is required to build tradition? Time, so let's give it time and allow it to grow and prosper or whither and die of its own merit. Let us not be nervous nellies worrying about this player and that player on the teams we root for in MLB. This has the potential to do great things for the game and I'm sorry to inform you of this but the game itself is way bigger than any one club in MLB or even all of MLB injuries or no injuries. ;)
It's the top of the 9th and Puerto Rico just tacked on another, so unless USA gets some last minute heroics it looks like they're going home.
Also, I couldn't agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson
Come on USA. Two on one out with Rollins up and Youk on deck.
1 out Runners at the Corners for Rollins:D:D
Bases Load for Youk!!! Still 1 out 5-3!!!:):):)
Flying Hawaiian Scores!!!! 5-4 one out for David Wright!!! 5-4!!!:D:D
Youkilis walks! This is INTENSE!
Fernando looks terrible from wathing the game on MLB Gameday Gamecast. 8 pitches 6 balls
USA Wins!!
USA Wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D
Wright walk off!!!
David wright and were going to the semis!
OMFG THIS IS AMAZING!!!!!!!! WRIGHT IS INDEED THE WRiGHT STUFF!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG THIS IS AWESOMMMEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YEAH!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO!!!!!!
Projected Teams going to Semis
Japan
Cuba (or Korea)
USA
Venezuela
David Wright is one of my favorite players. I was really happy to see him come through. That was amazing..
I thought you didn't like the WBC :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by metsguy234
Yea Mets guy--pick an opinion and stick with it..
Does anyone know who was the Non-Major Leaguer on Team USA original 28-man Roster?
Props to the US for their comeback...However WTF was up with J.C. Romero tonight? Almost every weekend warrior softball type I've ever played with and against takes games way more seriously than he appeared to be tonight. I don't think I'm the only one that noticed this. The smile he had on his face while he was on the mound is probably best suited for, I don't know, shagging flies in the OF before the game, not for when you're entire country is pulling for you to get the final 3 outs in an elimination game you have a two run lead in against the USA. Perhaps the problem is that he was even pitching in the ninth in the first place i.e. weak back end of the bullpen.
Hey J.C., you lollygag your "pickoff" throw over to Carlos Delgado and almost put it down the line. You lollygag your attempt to catch Carlos' return throw. You lollygag and laugh your way all around the mound. You know what that makes you?
I just hope that Puerto Ricans don't see it the same way as I do for his sake because I hear they like their beisbol down there. They might be a little upset with what appeared to me to be indifference.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by DarthJaker