scared... what the HELL are you talking about. they were winning nearly the whole game... how were they scaredQuote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
I dint know u new them personaly.. were they texting u from the dougout
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scared... what the HELL are you talking about. they were winning nearly the whole game... how were they scaredQuote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
I dint know u new them personaly.. were they texting u from the dougout
No. Because arguing with a person that is blinded by their fandom is useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
How about we stop attributing winning and losing to differences in "psyche", and just attribute it to who played better? How about that revolutionary idea? :rolleyes:Quote:
Because I, like all Philadelphia fans, am very passionate about my team. Did I say the Phillies will sweep the series? No. I think they will win. I watched all the LCS playoff game this year. Tampa was scared in game 6 and the first part of game seven. Their psyche is very fragile.
Sorry, you don't win 97 games and make the World Series with a "fragile psyche." Frankly, you don't make the major leagues with a "fragile psyche."
I picked the Brewers to win the NLDS, although, looking back, I'm not sure why I did...that was a dumb mistake. I picked the Phillies to win the NLCS though.Quote:
But then again, a lot of people picked the Brewers, a lot of people picked the Dodgers. Who won in the end. This team does not quit and they are aggressive.
Uh, yeah, the same goes for Tampa Bay.Quote:
They WANT to win this and that is their only goal.
I'm not a hater. I'm just rational.Quote:
Come on haters. Write them off.
Then pick them to win, state your case, discuss why you think they'll win, do whatever. But accusing everyone who picked the Rays of being "haters" and making statements like "the Dodgers are tougher than the Rays" is just... silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
So any time a team is losing, it's because they're scared? This makes zero sense.Quote:
I watched all the LCS playoff game this year. Tampa was scared in game 6 and the first part of game seven. Their psyche is very fragile.
A lot of people picked a lot of teams. I picked the Phillies over the Brewers, personally. It's not because I was "hating" on the Brewers, it's because I thought the Phils were a better team and would win the series.Quote:
But then again, a lot of people picked the Brewers, a lot of people picked the Dodgers. Who won in the end.
No teams "quit."Quote:
This team does not quit and they are aggressive.
That's every team's goal.Quote:
They WANT to win this and that is their only goal.
:rolleyes:Quote:
Come on haters. Write them off.
That is the other thing. I HATE the American League. DH rule? Bunch of wusses! Real baseball is played with all nine position players batting, not with someone else batting for the pitcher. That is so stupid!Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog
and im not passionate about mine???Quote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
the DH is BAD for the AL in the series so im not sure where you are comming fromQuote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
This is just silly. Something tells me that this Phillies fan is about 12 years old, and is incapable of an objective look at this subject. I will sum this up, however, and then let it go.
The Rays won 97 games in the best division in baseball, and in a vastly superior league. The Phillies won 92 games in an inferior league. The Phils are a fairly good team. The Rays are a great team. Nonetheless, as many have stated, anything can happen in a short series. The Phillies could win.. it just isnt likely. Have a great WS.
I am not saying that. Philadelphia fans are persecuted nationally for their outward passion.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
Actually, I was pulling for the Red Sox. The Red Sox fans and Philly fans get along very well because they love their teams and will defend them to the end. The series here in Philly where thousands of Bostonians come down are like world series games.
Ahh, a paper analyst. I see where your knowledge comes from. While you sit on the bowl and read your blackberry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog
I dont have a blackberry.
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Originally Posted by Swampdog
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Originally Posted by Swampdog
Hmmm.... I thought you were letting this go?
I'm going to let the discussion go, because you are irrational. I just want you to know, I dont have a blackberry. You better get moving, the school bus will be there soon.
And wildly guessing about psychology for analysis is better than "paper analysis" how?Quote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
um... no ther are persicuted due to their often mean natue NOT EVERYONE and im not even implying all fans are this way...Quote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
The only 2 games I have been to in Philly all I saw was people being dragged out of there by security because they where throwing food/drinks at the fans of the other teams... Cursing even at kids... and dont blame it on drunks because I make it a point to sin in the non-alcoholic section. As I said before this is NOT all philly fans but lets just say... they are known for it. i ahve been to yankke stadium, shea, boston all MANY MANY times, (more than I can count) and have NEVER had stuff thrown at me and I weat a braves t-shirt and cap EVERY TIME I GO.
*side note* I was a little nervous about doing it th game Rocker said he was going to ride the subway tho but actualy we lost the game so the rind home i had to take ribbing from the Mets fans but it was all in fun.
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Originally Posted by phightinphils
um not sure if you know this but baseball is a game OF STATISTICS. the entire game, matchps, lineups, defensive substitutions, are all managed by statistics, with only a little feeling added in.
oh... and i am the one who sits on the bowl on my blackburry looking at stats :p give me something to do while i'm well... you knwo... GOING
HA! Sooo funny! NOT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog
Who cares if you have or do not have a Blackberry! You need to go to school and learn sarcasm!
Yawn!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet
Yeah I heard that too. Wow, it happens once and everyone experiences it.
Taking part in this particular brand of debate/discussion can be tricky.
As Filihok observed,
I often catch myself arguing for the team I want to win, kidding myself that I'm actually arguing for the team I think really will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
Evidently, that's pretty common.
I want Philadelphia to win.
I think the team from that circus tent they call Tropicana Field will win.
THIS I agree withQuote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
I don't have a bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog
Then where do you drop your dueces?Quote:
Originally Posted by StreetMedic
Phillies fans are not "persecuted." I think you're envious of teams like the Yankees and Red Sox, that have a lot of exposure and "hatred" against them.
Philadelphia fans (this includes the Eagles, 76ers, and Flyers) are, however, KNOWN for being intense fans, but also quick to turn on their own teams and players at the drop of a hat, and for throwing things onto the field.
But they're not "persecuted" and nobody hates the Phillies. Again, do the Phillies even have a rival team?
actualy 2 times... and thats all i have ever heard from friends that have gone to phillyQuote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
Those choke artists up in New York, The MOOTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by justanewguy
The Phillies main rivals are the Philadelphis sportswriters.
now THAT is a statement i can agree with lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog
Funny man.......:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Swampdog
honestly, i really hope the rays lose. and it has nothing to do with the series overall. But I still want the Phils to win, of course.
The fan support sucked in Tampa throughout the season, and the only reason they have sellouts is because the fans show up now in the playoffs, just like the Marlins.
Next year will be the acid test for Tampa fans, or the jackacid test as the case may be. If they're not averaging 30k+ in attendance next year, with the players they have, they oughta move the franchise. (How about Raleigh? :D )
I'm rooting for the Rays to win because I like the way their team has been put together, but I've noticed that the bandwagon has gotten very crowded the past few weeks.
they wont have anywhere close to 30,000 ... if they average around 25,000- 27,000 they will be happy... its not going to go crazy in 1 year. Heck this year it jumped 5,100 over last year (17,148 to 22,259)Quote:
Originally Posted by beerchaser
If i'm them, of course I want a packed house every night, but I'd be happy around 25,000. in 2 years that would be like 35-40% increase
T.b.
Rays win it. Phillies are good, but I see Howard committing an error every game. Well, maybe not that bad.
Should be a fun series - both teams have weaknesses, but great players.
I do hope this translates into Rays fandom spreading - I've been going to the trop for 3 years now, and fans were finally starting to come to games a little this year. Seeing the upper deck filled during the ALCS was amazing. I like my Red Sox, but Rays are in my top 5 favorite teams.
Th eproblem is peopl will expect the stands to be full now at 30,000+. its not going to heppen... This is the 1st year. I want to see next year 25,000. The fans will come next year jsut give them a few years before you think they are going to draw great #'s. They contend for the title again next year.. watch how fast the 2010 tickets sell
It is really sad how they have sections of seats roped off and covered in Tampa Bay. It is just a transient state. I do not see them drawing more than they do now. They are rhe AL Marlins. They will win, sell off their players to the highest bidder and rebuild.
At least Peter Gammons has given the Phillies the respect they deserve. Just about all of the national sportswriters are picking TB to win it. Ugh! Some to have TB sweep the Phils. What a slap in the face. I guess they want the "feel good" story. Well, I hope they don't mind writing about the Phillies when they win it on 6 games.
GO PHILLIES!!!!!!!!
No, they won't. Jeffrey Loria isn't their owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
I understand that you're a Phillies fan, but maybe you should give Tampa the respect they deserve and stop acting like they're some second-class team that's going to rollover and die against Philadelphia.Quote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
There's a reason a lot of people are picking Tampa to win, and it has nothing to do with it being a feel good story.
Am I bashing them? NO! They made it. I am glad they made it. They are a good team. It will be a great series.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM
Why is it every time I bring up the Phils winning, people consider it bashing the Rays? For the love of everything holy! Everyone has a right to an opinion, except Phillies fans?
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Originally Posted by HoustonGM
At least I am giving them credit for winning two games! A lot of people who get paid money called sports writers are saying the Phillies are going to roll over and die and not win one game. That is a lack of respect! And these are professional sportswriters? Then again, the Dodgers were going to roll all over us and we know how that worked out! :D
Should I say Phillies win it in 7? Does that make everyone sleep better at night?
You have a right to an opinion, but when you're whining and making a big stink about people picking the Rays, yeah, it does seem like you're bashing them. You're acting like it's so surprising that people think the Rays will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by phightinphils
So, educate me oh wise one, if my opinion is about the writers, why is it whining?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonGM